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  1. Sharing Your Faith Or Not While Attending A Cult

    Not if that church was afraid of opening itself up to getting stained by the world.
  2. Sharing Your Faith Or Not While Attending A Cult

    I was never taught to share my faith with anyone. Molokan faith is only for Molokans. Even if someone wanted to seek God and join they never could.
  3. Jesus was asked the same thing... if it was lawful to pay taxes... Our taxes fund things that I do not approve (e.g. abortion), and yet I still pay them. My obligation is to submit to the governing authorities just as Paul mentions in Romans 13 and as Christ alludes to when asked about paying taxes. "Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor." 1 Peter 2:17
  4. Homosexual Marriage

    We must also remember that currently to serve in the military and to get married in this country is a right and not an obligation. We are neither forced to serve nor forced to marry. I willingly chose to serve in the military, and as Seeking Truth mentioned, it is not a sin. I willingly chose to engage in gay relationships... which I eventually recognized as sin, repented, and have been slowly trusting God to bring healing in that area of my life. I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. - Galations 2:20
  5. Homosexuality

    Sorry for the late reply. My question is not exactly hypothetical. I was that Molokan teen who had attractions to the same sex. I confided in a Presbyter who prayed with me, but offered no practical advice or consolation. I was too afraid to confide in my parents. They eventually found out by accident and it did not go well. My father was very grieved. Our relationship was very shakey immediately after. His pride caused him to withdraw from friends, family, co-workers, and molokan gatherings. Eventually, he stopped speaking to me and I didn't see nor hear from him for six years. I, too, left the molokan community fearing that I would be put to shame.... Years passed, and I befriended an older woman who shared with me the gospel of Jesus Christ. She said it didn't matter what I did in the past or what I do in the present... that God has always loved me and will continue to love me. He loves me so much that He sent His son, Jesus, to pay the price for my sins, including my homosexuality, with the price of His innocent, sinless life. And though I continue to struggle with sin, I know that I do not need to fear condemnation by God because He has already poured His wrath on my sin by pouring it onto His Son. I recall a teenaged Molokan man whom I sensed was different. Though I was just a young teen myself, I had a suspicion that he may have also been dealing with same-sex attractions. He committed suicide. And although I don't know for sure whether or not he was gay, I could only empathize with why he would have killed himself. My hope is that others like me may not succumb to that type of despair, but that they may find peace in the arms of a God who loves us... blemishes and all... because we all fall short of His glory. No one is without sin. God has and will forgive you if you put your trust in the One who willing paid the price for your sin.
  6. Homosexuality

    A member of your church confides in you that they have been struggling with homosexual attractions and maybe even had a homosexual encounter. What do you say or do?
  7. I have recently moved back to an area where I am within driving distance to Molokan sobrania. Yet because I have not been going, but rather attending and being involved in a non-molokan church, and that I had mentioned that I would consider "marrying out", a number of my family members have categorized me as ne nash and treat me very differently. They would say that we are both Christians, but they sure don't treat me like a brother in Christ. There will be challenges to face if you decide to attend another church. You may encounter some aspects of excommunication from the Molokan community. I stuck around because of relatives and a sense of cultural history. After all, my grandfather risked his life and the life of his family to escape communist Russia to come to USA that his family can practice their faith freely. I felt that it would be a slap to his face for choosing another church. However, I believe that he stood for the truth. He respected Christians of all backgrounds. He, being a presvetyer, still allowed friends of other Christian churches into his house to have fellowship with them. But even if he didn't stand for the truth, I do. It is the truth that sets us free. It is God's grace that brings us into Sonship - into the inheritance of His righteousness through the propitiatory and substitutionary death of Jesus Christ. My performance and rituals mean nothing as I am still in a sinner's body. But it's by His grace alone that I am in fellowship with Him. If I had to continue to do good works and focus on not sinning as my method of salvation, then why did Jesus come to die for them?
  8. Paskka

    When do Molokans celebrate Paskha this year? Is it the same time as Jewish passover? How can one figure it out for themselves according the biblical text and Molokan doctrine?
  9. Clean/unclean Foods.

    Romans 14:13-23 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died. 16Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. 17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men. 19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall. 22So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin. Well said Apostle Paul. He is basically saying that we shouldn't argue about ham sandwiches. Verse 20 says that all food is clean, but don't eat something that will disturb your brother's faith. So when I'm around Molokans, I don't eat pork. When I'm around non-Molokans, I eat what is offered to me because it is permissible: 1 Corinthians 10:23-33 - 23 - "Everything is permissible"”but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"”but not everything is constructive. 24Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others. 25Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."[a] 27If some unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. 30If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for? 31So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. 32Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God” 33even as I try to please everybody in every way. For I am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be saved.
  10. Race Separation - Is It Biblical?

    I was "born into" the Molokan culture... yet because I willingly served in the U.S. military, I was told by an elder that I would be refused membership to one of the more "conservative" Molokan churches... Do you think it would have been worse if I would have added that my father was поÑтоÑнный - postoyanni? As far as race separation goes... the first scriptures that come to mind are: Matthew 7:1 - Do not judge, or you too will be judged. Matthew 5:43-50 - "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Why judge? It's pointless... God will take care of it. Throughout countless quotes in the bible, God says that vengeance is His, and that He will crush our enemies, etc. So regardless of race or sins, I am not to judge. Besides, I am not sin-free.... Romans 3:21-24 - But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. So though I have sinned, God has justified me by His grace by the blood of Jesus. And that Mexican down the street? He told me that he once was a theif, but now loves God and tries his best to live a life according to God... Did you hear the one about the theif on the cross... ?
  11. Molokans And Thanksgiving

    An American holiday that promotes thanking God for his goodness and mercies.... sounds like thanksgiving should be everyday, not just once a year!
  12. Were Moses, David, Abraham Ne-nash?

    2 Corinthians 6:14-18 - Paul advises us to not become "unequally yoked". In other words, do not marry a non-Christian. Since there exists other Christians other than Molokans, then this passage doesn't necessarily apply to the case (for example) when a Molokan marries a Lutheran. 1 Corinthians 7:12-14 - Paul says that if you're already in a marriage with a non-believer, so be it. Don't divorce. And verse 14, "For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy." Thus, we as Christians would bring light into the lives of our spouses (non-believing) and our children will be holy. Although, I do agree with Paul in 2 Corinthians 6 when the metaphor "unequally yoked" implies that a believer and non-believer will have two different loads... two different goals in life. Thus, a Christian will not have an easy marriage serving the Lord and serving/leading a non-believer. Moreover, marriage to a non-believer doesn't constitute not going into heaven. The only requirement that I know is that one must believe in the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ and to repent of all our sins to become justified. Oh, and one last, yet obvious fact. There were no Molokans back in Moses' day. So he couldn't have married one. In fact, there were no Christians then either. So the closest to a "nash" that he could have married would have been an Isrealite ("Jew"). But as implied previously, there isn't a passage in the bible that says marrying a "ne nash" is punishable by eternal damnation. -Tsigan80
  13. Ge

    Male; Female; Rather not say -Male What State do you live in? -CA Single or Married? -Single Age range: under 16; 17-21; 22-30; 30+; Rather not say -22-30 How many brothers and sisters do you have? -1 brother During the day I: -attend school My hobbies are: -Reading, socializing, working out, road trips, playing hockey, going on exciting adventures The last book that I read was: -Crude Chronicles - an anthropological analysis of the struggle between the indigenous peoples of Ecuador and the neoliberal oil movement. My favorite pizza toppings are: -Would I get a tongue lashing if I said pepperoni? I prefer to drink: Starbucks; Chai (tea); Soda; Red bull; Water Depends on my mood. Coffee during philosophical discussions, OJ during class, tea in the mornings or when visiting relatives, water the rest of the time I admire: My grandfather for walking across the Russian-Turkish border to lead his family away from the oppression against christianity. The person that I would most like to talk to is: -oh... that's a tough one... My favorite television show is: -I don't watch television My favorite music is: Rock (from 60s-90s) and classical such as Beethoven, Bach, and Vivaldi One thing that I would change about myself is: To speak Russian more fluently. Ya seychas izuchayou ruski yazik. Ya znau shto nasha younasha ne govoryat po-ruski. Kak nam ne stidno? One thing that I like about myself is: the fact that I'm a survivor.
  14. Welcome New Members

    Greetings to you, internet saavy Molokans! I've been away from the community for a number of years now... hope you don't mind if I eavesdrop, ask questions, and contriubte my thoughts to this forum. -Tsigan80
  15. What Do These Holidays Mean To You?

    When are we observing Pakha this year? (Sorry I'm totally out of the loop) -Tsigan80
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