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  1. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    Obviously last/leastinline was a bit hasty in copying anonymous’ incomplete initial post above, and thereby missed the message in its entirety. Here is anonymous’ completed and most current post (4th post up): Wow---isn’t it so very interesting that last/leastinline has no problem with the exposure of mgr’s heresy, and is more than willing to communicate concerning that issue here on this forum---but when it comes to the heresy of molokanism, she is up in arms at the message and messenger, and refuses to address the issue here on this forum (and in the [molokan] religious gatherings she attends). And wow again---isn’t it so very interesting that last/leastinline’s eyes are blinded to the Pharisaic nature of molokanism that propagates and perpetuates a blatant bias/prejudice---“us” (molokans aka "nashi") and “them” (non-molokans aka "ni-nashi") teaching---in spite of (literally) YESHUA HAMASHIACH’S death which broke the barrier between Jews and gentiles (anyone other than Jews, which would include molokans)---uniting, via HIS SPIRIT aka THE SPIRIT of CHRIST aka THE SPIRIT of TRUTH aka THE SPIRIT of GOD aka THE HOLY SPIRIT---without exception---all (black, brown, red, yellow, white) who accept, believe, and receive HIM, into HIS one body of believers aka HIS bride/wife aka the [universal] church. Unfortunately for her, just as mgr’s anti/un-SCRIPTURAL teachings and practices are his faithful followers’ “sacred cow” aka a "no-go zone," the anti/un-SCRIPTURAL teachings and practices of molokanism are last/leastinline’s “sacred cow” aka a "no-go zone." Selective---hearing and seeing---can also be viewed in light of SOLA SCRIPTURA, as---deafness and blindness [to the truth(s) therein]. Too bad, so sad, but oh well....
  2. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    As with mgr's faithful ones who select only the passages from THE HOLY SCRIPTURES that suit them, but refuse to accept the whole counsel of SOLA SCRIPTURA'S truth(s), hard and fast traditionalists like last/leastinline are also eventually left to their own devices and the consequences thereof. Too bad, so sad.... P.S. And they cannot say, in all honesty/truthfulness, that they were never given an opportunity to accept the whole counsel of SOLA SCRIPTURA. P.P.S. BTW, insofar as its application in the context of last/leastinline and her being a member of a religious community that teaches and practices bias/prejudice against non-molokans, it doesn’t take omniscience nor omnipresence to know and see that what the person “says” [on this forum] and what the person “does” [active member of aforementioned pseudo-Christian religious group] are two different things. Neither is omniscience nor omnipresence necessary in ascertaining when a person is a born-again bona fide believer and follower of YESHUA HAMASHIACH---because he is who he is in YESHUA HAMASHIACH (THE TRUTH---John 14:6), and will speak the truth wherever he is---be it at religious gatherings or on this forum. And thus far, from her posts on this forum, last/leastinline has proven that her “talk” does not square with her “walk”---for if it did, she would have no problem admitting here on this forum or in the [molokan] religious gatherings she attends, that the teaching and practice of bias/prejudice against non-molokans (core molokanism) is anti/un-SCRIPTURAL thus unGODLY thus in opposition to YESHUA HAMASHIACH and SOLA SCRIPTURA---because THE SPIRIT of TRUTH aka THE HOLY SPIRIT aka THE SPIRIT of CHRIST aka THE SPIRIT of GOD would compel her to do so as HE has done/does/will do by/through HIS own since time immemorial. In his testimonial regarding unbelief and belief in JESUS, Apostle John provides some interesting facts/truths--- “While you have THE LIGHT, believe in THE LIGHT, that you may become sons of light.” When JESUS had said these things, HE departed and hid HIMSELF from them. Though HE had done so many signs before them, they still did not believe in HIM, so that the word spoken by the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled: ‘LORD, who has believed what he heard from us, and to whom has the arm of THE LORD been revealed?’ Therefore they could not believe. For again Isaiah said, ‘HE has blinded their eyes and hardened their heart, lest they see with their eyes, and understand with their heart, and turn, and I would heal them.’ Isaiah said these things because he saw HIS glory and spoke of HIM. Nevertheless, many even of the authorities believed in him, but for fear of the Pharisees they did not confess it, so that they would not be put out of the synagogue; for they loved the glory that comes from man more than the glory that comes from GOD.” (John 12:35-43) Please note that although people may believe---fear---is the reason those like last/leastinline do not speak the truth in their religious gatherings; fear of being shunned and/or excommunicated, and Apostle John gives the true/truthful motive for not doing so: “…for they loved the glory that comes from man more than the glory that comes from GOD.” (John 12:43) It is a well-known fact that---IF---last/leastinline did speak the truth concerning molokanism and its anti/un-SCRIPTURAL bias/prejudice against non-molokans---in a [molokan] religious setting, there would be negative repercussions (see examples above) which she obviously does not want to endure….for THE TRUTH (John 14:6)/YESHUA HAMASHIACH’S sake. And in order to keep within the “good graces” of the religious leadership and the molokan community in general, under the pretext of “grace” and “love” and “genuine concern” for her fellow molokans, she will not (conscious volitional decision) speak the truth concerning this issue. Sad, very sad to witness a person masking her true motives by deluding herself into thinking that she is doing something good for the sake of her fellow man….
  3. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    So true. The hope is that there are silent spectators (readers only) who actually may be receptive....
  4. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    Sad to witness last/leastinline consoling himself with confabulations. Amazing, but not surprising at all, as this is the classic posture of those who simply refuse to accept the truths of SOLA SCRIPTURA, be it traditionalists like last/leastinline, or, blatant cult followers like mgr's faithful ones---and again, in last/leastinline's case, someone who claims to believe SOLA SCRIPTURA. Such a pity.... P.S. BTW, last/leastinline is so off the mark regarding anonymous' identity and his so-called "diagnosis," it isn't even humorous; it's absolutely pathetic the extent to which refuseniks will go in attempts to justify their denial of SOLA SCRIPTURA truth(s).
  5. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    The Jews stoned the prophet Habakkuk---because he prophesied concerning THE MESSIAH, that HE should come and abrogate the [man-made] laws of the Jews. The Jews stoned the prophet Jeremiah---because he rebuked them for worshipping idols. The chief of the Jews slew the prophet Ezekiel in the land of the Chaldeans---because Ezekiel rebuked him for worshipping idols. John the Baptist was imprisoned---for speaking the truth (actually, rebuking) to Herod the Tetrach concerning his anti-/un-SCRIPTURAL thus unlawful practice of marrying another man's wife, namely, his sister-in-law, Herodias, whose daughter, Salome, upon the behest of her mother, asked Herod for John the Baptist’s head on a platter thus his decapitation. Stephen was stoned to death by the religious establishment---because he boldly stood up for and spoke the truth regarding JESUS to a hostile Jewish audience; he clearly called out those who put JESUS on the cross, much like Apostle Peter in his address to the Jews in Acts 2:22-23. Now what did all of the above individuals have in common? ANSWER: They were willing to suffer the consequences of their faith in---JESUS, WHO is THE TRUTH (John 14:6)---even unto death. When JESUS’ disciples were filled with THE HOLY SPIRIT aka THE SPIRIT of TRUTH aka THE SPIRIT of CHRIST aka THE SPIRIT of GOD, they were not silent nor did they think or profess that their mere existence would serve as examples of their faith---they boldly acted upon their faith in JESUS, and spoke the truth with respect to HIM and HIS teachings wherever they were, and suffered as their MASTER suffered---for speaking the truth. Yet last/leastinline, WHO speaks the name of JESUS, is afraid to speak up within the molokan community concerning the anti-/un-CHRISTian biases/prejudices molokanism teaches and practices against non-molokans, and consequently, is not willing to suffer---for THE TRUTH’S sake. He claims he hates the term “nee-nashi,” but obviously not enough to do anything about it. Ironically, he speaks the name of JESUS (a Jew), and how he loves Jerusalem, etc., but is an active member of a religious community that preaches and practices bias/prejudice against non-molokans aka “nee-nashi,” which would include Jews. What does that smack of? Correct---h-y-p-o-c-r-i-s-y. It’s past high time that last/leastinline and traditionalists like him, admit to themselves at least, that they do not have what it takes to break with the traditions of men---for JESUS’ sake. (At least egk was honest enough to admit that molokans “just want to be left alone.”) Such a pity…. P.S. Suggestion for last/leastinline in referencing SOLA SCRIPTURA and speaking the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH from hereon---save it---until you actually believe and act upon the faith SOLA SCRIPTURA professes.
  6. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    last/leastinline, If only you actually believed and took to heart the last SCRIPTURAL reference you presented: Unfortunately, like Guest newname, who claimed to be in possession of mgr's originals and had no problem with the Russian language, but failed to translate even a paragraph of mgr's originals---you have proven in your posts that when the rubber meets the road and your feet are put to task regarding molokanism (man-made notions), you are unable to substantiate its anti/un-SCRIPTURAL prejudicial teachings and practices with SOLA SCRIPTURA, which you profess to believe. Therefore, your presentation of SCRIPTURAL passages is hypocritical---your "talk" doesn't square with your "walk" old chap. Such a pity.... P.S. And still making assumptions about the messenger....par for your course, of course.
  7. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    Incredible, simply incredible---both last/leastinline and mgr’s devoted ones just do not want (a volitional, willful decision) to “get it.” They simply refuse to accept the truth(s) of THE LORD GOD’S word(s), and choose instead, to believe man-made notions---which is why try as they might, they will never, repeat, never be successful in substantiating molokanism and its anti/un-SCRIPTURAL teachings and practices nor mgr’s anti/un-SCRIPTURAL teachings and practices, with THE HOLY SCRIPTURES---because the two are not only incompatible, they are diametrically opposed---one is “of THE LORD” (THE HOLY SCRIPTURES) and the other is not “of THE LORD” (molokanism and mgr’s memoirs)---and that which is opposed to THE LORD GOD and HIS ways, word(s), etc., is against HIM aka rebellion. This is the reason the only comeback as it were, by those like last/leastinline and mgr’s faithful ones is, at best, their own convoluted fabrications, and when those fabrications are taken to task and proven wrong by THE HOLY SCRIPTURES time and again, they resort to ad hominem (and in the case of last/leastinline, unfounded assumptions regarding the messenger). In Guest newname’s attempted refutation of anonymous’ statement below with respect to THE HOLY SCRIPTURES and salvation--- ---he retorted with: Interestingly enough, while Guest newname cited the following passages from 2 Timothy a number of times--- ---his eyes appear to be blinded to the antecedent passages--- “But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in CHRIST JESUS.” (2 Timothy 3:14-15) ---in which passages “the sacred writings” Apostle Paul is referring to of course, are what is known as---The Old Testament (since The New Testament was still “in the making” during Apostle Paul and Timothy’s day). And upon its completion---The New Testament---in fulfillment of The Old Testament prophecies concerning THE CHRIST/MESSIAH, also testified/testifies/will testify of---salvation---by/through/via the only name under Heaven by which men are---saved (salvation)---THE LORD GOD aka JESUS [THE] CHRIST/MESSIAH---for both Jew and Gentile---in other words, all of humanity/human race/mankind. Obviously, anonymous’ statement with respect to---salvation---is consistent with THE HOLY SCRIPTURES (sacred writings), and which unfortunately for him, Guest newname is blinded to. In his “explanation” below, Guest newname attempts to give what he believes to be accurate information concerning mgr’s women (which by mgr's own admission is the “….reason I suffer here in prison confinement”): So according to Guest newname--- To begin, anyone with a minimal knowledge of the Russian language knows that---Marafina (also known as Marfa, according to Guest newname) is not the same name as---Maria (aka in Russian vernacular as Manya; Masha, etc.). The English name for “Marfa” (aka “Marta” in Russian) is---Martha, not Maria (which, in English, is---Mary). In other words---Marafina (aka as Marfa, according to Guest newname) and Maria---are two different names of two different women. THE HOLY SCRIPTURES bear this out when we read the account from Luke 10:38-42--- Cyrillic/Russian “В продолжение пути их пришел ОН в одно селение; здесь женщина, именем Марфа, приняла ЕГО в дом свой; у неё была сестра, именем Мария, которая села у ног ИИСУСА слушала слово ЕГО. Марфа же заботилась о большом угошеним и, подойда, сказала: ГОСПОДИ! или ТЕБЕ нужды нет, что сестра моя одну меня оставила служить? скажи ей, чтобы помогла мне. ИИСУС же сказал ей в ответ: Марфа! Марфа! Ты заботишься о многом, а одно только нужно; Мария же избрала благую часть, которая не отниметса у неё.” (Лука 10:38-42) English “Now as they went on their way, JESUS entered a village. And a woman named Martha welcomed HIM into her house. And she had a sister called Mary, who sat at THE LORD’S feet and listened to HIS teaching. But Martha was distracted with much serving. And she went up to HIM and said, ‘LORD, do YOU not care that my sister has left me to serve alone? Tell her then to help me.’ But THE LORD answered her, ‘Martha, Martha, you are anxious and troubled about many things, but one thing is necessary. Mary has chosen the good portion, which will not be taken away from her.’” (Luke 10:38-42) JESUS promised HIS faithful disciples the following with respect to HIS SPIRIT aka THE SPIRIT of CHRIST aka THE SPIRIT of TRUTH aka THE HOLY SPIRIT: “But THE HELPER, THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHOM THE FATHER will send in MY name, HE will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.” (John 14:26) Now if Guest newname was indwelt and sensitive to THE SPIRIT of THE LORD GOD aka THE SPIRIT of CHRIST aka THE SPIRIT of TRUTH aka THE HOLY SPIRIT, and actually listened to HIM rather than striving to defend his beloved wayward mentor, mgr, and his anti/un-SCRIPTURAL teachings/writings---the above SCRIPTURAL passages would have been brought to his mind/remembrance by THE HOLY SPIRIT aka THE SPIRIT of TRUTH, and he would not have made the blatant blunder that he did with his own man-made concoction of a story aka a falsehood. In other words, THE TRUTH (John 14:6) would have revealed the truth to him concerning the matter, and set him free from the falsehood. Thus the words of THE LORD JESUS expose Guest newname’s story regarding Marafina (Marfa/Martha) and Maria (Mary) as being one and the same [person], that is, mgr’s only lawfully wedded physical wife, as a---falsehood. Maria Fyodirovna (the daughter of Fyodir) was mgr’s lawfully wedded physical wife---and according to THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, when a man and woman are joined in holy matrimony (marriage), they become one flesh (Genesis 2:18-24). At first glance one may think that “flesh” refers only to the physical body, however, in his expose concerning sexual immorality in 1 Corinthians 6:12-20, Apostle Paul makes it clear that the physical union [of matrimony] is also a spiritual one. In other words, when a man and woman are joined in holy matrimony, they become one in body and spirit which no man is to put asunder/separate, as JESUS said (Matthew 19:3-9; Mark 10:2-9). JESUS also said: “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” (Matthew 5:27-28) In light of JESUS’ words which are true/truth because HE is THE TRUTH (John 14:6), the notion of a “spiritual” wife while having a physical [and spiritual, according to THE HOLY SCRIPTURES] lawfully wedded wife, is nothing short of---adultery---and the description in his unedited unsanitized original memoirs (see his “Command” text below) of mgr’s so-called “spiritual” (and physical) union with women other than and in addition to his physical [and spiritual, according to THE HOLY SCRIPTURES] lawfully wedded wife, is a no-brainer in qualifying as---adultery. The other women (including Sterafina/Stenya) were mgr’s anti/un-SCRIPTURAL thus unGODly “spiritual wives/queens” aka his own warped fantasy. Next, listen to the distinction Guest newname makes between these two women---Marafina (aka Marfa, according to Guest newname), and Sterafina (Stenya): Unwittingly, Guest newname acknowledges and confirms that---Stenya (Sterafina)---was mgr’s unlawful wife---which acknowledgement in itself is a RED FLAG to those in whom THE HOLY SPIRIT aka THE SPIRIT of TRUTH dwells. Yet Guest newname appears to be unaffected at all, and as a matter of [his and his kind’s] course, accepts and considers it to be “normal,” justifying it with yet another of his “explanations”: Well now, if, according to Guest newname--- ---who was mgr in that scenario per Guest newname’s “explanation” below--- And if Sterafina was his spiritual unlawful wife and “representative of his spiritual community (Zion), the mother of all those who believe in the Holy Spirit….,” as Guest newname alleges--- Who then is the daughter of Garasim and Anna Klubnikin (Efim Garasimovitch Klubnikin’s parents) whom mgr wrote about and identified in his infamous "Command" here: It is more than obvious from his own words that his physical union (even in thought only) with the daughter (egk’s sister) of Garasim and Anna Klubnikin (egk’s parents) was an---adulterous one---because again, his physical [and spiritual, according to THE HOLY SCRIPTURES] lawfully wedded wife was Maria Fyodirovna, the daughter of Fyodir (not the daughter of Matvey nor the daughter of Garasim [and Anna Klubnikin]). But let us indulge Guest newname for the sake of giving him and his “explanation” the benefit of doubt. If his tale is true regarding Sterafina as "....representative of his spiritual community (Zion), the mother of all those who believe in the Holy Spirit," and his beloved hero's own words are true---both Sterafina and the daughter of Garasim and Anna Klubnikin (Efim Garasimovitch Klubnikin's sister) were---"the mother and queen of Zion"---not one, but two "mothers and queens of Zion"---a "spare" mother and queen of Zion in the event one displeased the self-anointed "father and king" of Zion (mgr). And if that wasn't absurd enough, mgr didn't stop there---it was seven "spiritual wives and queens" plus seven more "spiritual wives and queens" when the first seven "spiritual wives and queens" married normal young men (whom mgr referred to as "demons incarnate") during his absence. Absurdity upon absurdity due to the arrogance/high mindedness of a man and his lust for religious power and women, that compelled mgr to commit sin upon sin upon sin---all "in the name of" THE LORD GOD under the pretext of "spiritual." And indeed, it was "spiritual," however, it was not of THE HOLY SPIRIT aka THE SPIRIT of TRUTH aka THE SPIRIT of CHRIST aka THE SPIRIT of GOD to be sure---it was by inspiration of what THE HOLY SCRIPTURES refer to as a “familiar” spirit aka a lying spirit---which spirit deceives thereby causing confusion. Hence mgr’s confused protégés like Guest newname whose explanations are replete with contradictions and inconsistencies. However, Guest newname is not entirely responsible for his confusion---like all of mgr’s proteges, he is simply being faithful to his beloved hero and trying to the best of his ability to defend his “spiritual” leader and mentor’s anti/un-SCRIPTURAL teachings/writings. What Guest newname (like all of his maximist compatriots) ignores however, is the fact/truth that the problem lies with mgr’s memoirs per se---and no one, not even the most devout of mgr’s followers, is or will be able to reconcile his anti/un-SCRIPTURAL teachings/writings with THE HOLY SCRIPTURES---because again, and again, and again, and again---his teachings/writings are not of THE LORD GOD. They are inspired by a spirit, yes, but not by THE HOLY SPIRIT aka THE SPIRIT of TRUTH aka THE SPIRIT of CHRIST aka THE SPIRIT of GOD WHO is SPIRIT WHO is THE AUTHOR of HIS word aka THE HOLY SCRIPTURES. His own testimony/words in his unedited unsanitized original memoirs expose mgr as a person inspired by the spirit of falsity/lies which is, of course, in opposition to THE TRUTH (John 14:6) aka rebellion. The simple truth is that that which is of THE LORD GOD---has been, is, and always will be compatible with HIS WORD aka THE HOLY SCRIPTURES as HE is THE AUTHOR of HIS WORD, thus will always withstand the scrutiny of THE HOLY SCRIPTURES---while falsehoods will not---it really is that simple. And until last/leastinline comes to realize and accept the truth concerning molokanism and its anti/un-SCRIPTURAL teachings and practices, and mgr's faithful ones do the same concerning the falsehoods their beloved hero and shepherd, mgr, preached and practiced, both will continue to rebel against THE HOLY SCRIPTURES thus THE AUTHOR of HIS WORD, THE LORD GOD HIMSELF (regardless of how many times either references "SOLA SCRIPTURA, YESHUA HAMASHIACH," etc.)---resulting in darkness, spinning their wheels and going nowhere but deeper into darkness, as seen in their posts here on this forum. Such a pity….
  8. BTW, for the record--- The phrase "What a pity...." in anonymous' REPEAT post above, was in reference to last/leastinline's "....insistence on telephone calls for FEAR of responding here on this forum"---not his voluntarily joining this forum as last/leastinline misconstrued (and in doing so, revealed the fact/truth that perhaps he is not as "intuitive" as he imagines himself to be---can we spell Q-u-i-x-o-t-i-s-m).
  9. Who is last/leastinline trying to impress with SCRIPTURAL passages in Cyrillic/Russian? Everyone on this forum, including last/leastinline, knows that without an English to Russian/Russian to English translating application and/or device, he would be unable to translate either English into Russian or Russian into English. At least those with integrity and a modicum of humility have admitted to such, but not last/leastinline, who persists in---giving "the appearance of and [false] impression" (aka a "facade") that he understands something he doesn't (and if put to the test, would fail miserably). Much like the man-made molokan customs, "church" rituals, and rules and regulations, which last/leastinline as a member of said religious group, practices, which---give "the appearance and [false] impression" (aka a "facade") of something significant and so-called "GODly," but when placed into the truthful light of SOLA SCRIPTURA, prove to be nothing more than what they are---man-made customs, "church" rituals, and rules and regulations----which mean nothing to YESHUA HAMASHIACH as HE pointed out to, that's right, the---Pharisees---during HIS day, who placed an inordinate emphasis on the appearance of GODliness, apparel, ancestry, man-made customs, man-made traditions, man-made rules and regulations, etc, thereby missing the mark of solely seeing and exalting THE NAME above all names, and a personal intimate relationship with HIM, THE CREATOR of all things, visible and invisible. And---their purpose on Earth---to proclaim THE GOOD NEWS of salvation and THE ONLY NAME under Heaven by which men are saved---YESHUA HAMASHIACH---in order that people from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, may believe in and receive HIM, and enter into HIS KINGDOM. But alas, molokanism teaches just the opposite---isolation---from all tribes, peoples, and languages (non-molokans), and in so doing, are actually grieving THE HOLY SPIRIT/THE SPIRIT of TRUTH, and storing up THE LORD'S judgment upon themselves. What else can one say except, such is life in the molokan community....
  10. When someone thinks they know something, but in reality/truth, do not---they are prone to making egregious errors such as in the unfounded assumption last/leastinline makes here--- “….I now perceptively believe that anonymous’ now strong hatred for me is likely because of her estrangement from Molokan relatives and friends who no longer will accept her hostility toward them and no longer interact with her.” ---which has previously been brought to last/leastinline’s attention as bordering on bearing false witness, and which, once again, only affirms that, like the maximisti, last/leastinline has nothing, SCRIPTURALLY, to substantiate his involvement in “Pharisaic legalism” via molokanism---only [baseless] ad hominem vitriol---which stems from his FEAR of answering questions and admitting to the anti/un-SCRIPTURAL teachings of molokanism here on this forum.
  11. Self-examination and assessment....??? It would only be to his benefit if last/leastinline put his own advice into practice. Unfortunately for him, his--- ......Disclaimer..... I Judge no one, although I do and STRONGLY suggest that bashing Pharisaic beliefs is quite acceptable. ......End Disclaimer..... ---exposes him as someone who holds to and practices....double-standards. It is quite acceptable for him to bash what he believes to be “Pharisaic beliefs” (per his own words in his disclaimer), but when SOLA SCRIPTURA (which he claims he believes and adheres to) proves time and again that molokanism is “Pharisaic legalism,” he cries “foul,” and alleges that those who present SOLA SCRIPTURA in exposing molokanism as “Pharisaic legalism,” don’t really know ("intimate knowledge and spiritual" workings in the various congregations within the molokan community; yada, yada, yada---is most definitely applicable here) and care about the molokan community. Both interesting and a pity that those like last/leastinline insist on ignoring the elephant in the room---but again, not surprising in the least, and only par for the course---been the case for years. Regarding his statement--- “….those that openly profess their faith in Yeshua Hamashiach as Lord God and continue to faithfully work within the Molokan Community….” ---obviously, in the context of his posts, last/leastinline, himself, and he, is included in his above statement. Now is last/leastinline courageous enough to “unpack” his above statement here on this forum? What exactly does he do that he continues “….to faithfully work within the Molokan Community”? And to what end? P.S. The above questions are more rhetorical than inquisitive, and there is no expectation of anything more than continued [baseless] ad hominem vitriol from him, if anything at all. However, hope is alive and well....
  12. REPEAT: Once again, like the maximisti---last/leastinline has absolutely nothing, SCRIPTURALLY, to substantiate his involvement in "Pharisaic legalism" via molokanism---only [baseless] ad hominem vitriol---and insistence on telephone calls for FEAR of responding here on this forum---which forum by the way, he voluntarily joined. What a pity.....
  13. Once again, like the maximisti---last/leastinline has absolutely nothing, SCRIPTURALLY, to substantiate his involvement in "Pharisaic legalism" via molokanism---only ad hominem vitriol---and insistence on telephone calls for FEAR of responding here on this forum---which forum by the way, he voluntarily joined. What a pity.....
  14. Interesting that last/leastinline drones on and on about seeking’s lack of knowledge of the molokan community, and being disingenuous in his concern and love for the people within the molokan community---but has exposed himself as a person who actually does not genuinely care for these people. How so? IF---last/leastinline truly had a heart for these people as he alludes, he would boldly be speaking the truth concerning the molokan church’s anti/un-SCRIPTURAL teaching of bias/discrimination/partiality/prejudice against non-molokans (nee nashi---the word he claims to hate), and like all of THE LORD’S own, be prepared to suffer the consequences for doing so. All of THE LORD GOD’S disciples prior to and post HIS departure suffered the consequences of speaking HIS truth. One of many examples in the early church was John the Baptist who was imprisoned by Herod “…for the sake of Herodias, his brother Philip’s wife, because he had married her. For John had been saying to Herod, ‘It is not lawful for you to have your brother’s wife’” (Mark 6:17-18), and later was decapitated at the whim of Herodias’ daughter (Herod’s step-daughter). Our LORD and SAVIOR, YESHUA HAMASHIACH, WHO is THE TRUTH (John 14:6), was crucified for speaking the truth. The Sanhedrin, the highest Jewish tribunal comprised of Sadducees and Pharisees (Acts 23:6a), rejected THE TRUTH when HE spoke the truth and were instrumental in causing HIS death as a result. And after HIS death, resurrection, and ascension into Heaven, all of YESHUA HAMASHIACH’S apostles and disciples were (and are) persecuted and/or put to death for speaking [HIS] truth. Those who boldly spoke/speak the truth within the molokan “church[es],” are either no longer active participants and/or no longer members, willingly and/or unwillingly. So is last/leastinline boldly speaking the truth regarding molokanism’s bias/discrimination/partiality/prejudice toward non-molokans (nee nashi---the word he claims to hate) within his particular congregation? Apparently not, since he cannot provide a simple “yes” or “no” to the question concerning this matter. But last/leastinline’s case is nothing new, and as it is with others within the molokan community, there is a---fear---of reprimand, reprisal in the form of censoring speaking privileges (if he holds that position), disassociation with and shunning of him and his family, and ultimately, excommunication and/or volitional departure---that prevents him [and others within the community] from boldly speaking the truth. As much as last/leastinline may deny it, we’ve all heard the argument used by members of this community (including him) to rationalize and justify their cowardice in not taking a firm stand for YESHUA HAMASCHIACH and speaking HIS truth concerning the molokan “church” and its bias/partiality/discrimination/prejudice against non-molokans---“There is no perfect church,” and “every church has its problems and shortcomings,” yada, yada, yada…. The problem with this stance is that, while “other churches” (non-molokan), if they are truly bona fide CHRISTians, welcome whomever wishes to attend (if only for observation) and/or become a member of that congregation if one chose to do so, the same definitely cannot be said regarding the molokan “church” which claims to be “CHRISTian,” but whose actions prove it to be nominal “CHRISTian”---in name only. SOLA SCRIPTURA is replete with that which is of utmost importance to YESHUA HAMASHIACH---the spreading of THE GOOD NEWS of---HIM [and HIS KINGDOM]---“…among the nations…among all the peoples” (1 Chronicles 16:23-24) as the only way to and means of---salvation from sin (disobedience to HIM/THE WORD and its penalty---death) and HIS righteous wrathful judgment against sin[ners]---for the establishment of a personal, intimate, and right[eous] relationship with...HIM...the object and purpose of salvation. Insofar as “Pharisaic legalism” (which last/leastinline continuously accuses seeking of, and now, anonymous) is concerned, let’s take a look at some of the “must-dos & don'ts” of molokanism. • Wearing white outfits for funerals and memorials---not necessarily mandated, but looked upon with disapproval if black or other dark colors are worn or if apparel which is not the “traditional church garb” is worn. • Eating out [at restaurants]---frowned upon and discouraged (although ironically, not observed by a good number of congregants). • Socializing with “nee-nashi” (not ours; outsiders)---frowned upon and discouraged (although doing “business” with them is acceptable). Similar to man-made rules which the Pharisees during JESUS’ day, and the Judaizers during the apostles’ days, insisted be observed....and which Roman Catholicism and other pseudo-CHRISTian religious groups in modern times, insist be observed. In reality/truth, and for all practical purposes, molokanism = Pharisaic legalism. And unfortunately for him, last/leastinline, who has yet to say something positive about seeking and his bold stance for the truth, is a member of a religious body that exercises “Pharisaic legalism.” As with the maximisti, all one can say concerning the molokan “church” and its anti/un-SCRIPTURAL teachings and practices, is---woe unto them.
  15. last/leastinline, What do you believe is the reason for your refusal to answer the above posed questions---here on this forum? Could it be---fear?
  16. last/leastinline, Either you have forgotten---or---weren’t paying attention---or---disregarded completely anonymous’ previous response concerning contacting you via your personal contact information. To reiterate---there is NO NEED to do so---as the questions posed should not prove to be a problem in answering here on the forum, and especially not for someone who has been delivered from darkness into THE LIGHT---that is, for a born-again believer in YESHUA, WHO is THE TRUE LIGHT (John 1:9) and THE TRUTH (John 14:6), and in whom HIS SPIRIT/THE SPIRIT of TRUTH/THE HOLY SPIRIT dwells. It is true is it not, that you claim to believe---SOLA SCRIPTURA---thus the contents therein? It is also true is it not, that you are a member of a congregation (church) that claims to be “CHRISTian,” that is, believers and followers of CHRIST/MESSIAH YESHUA, yet blatantly discriminates against non-molokans? Are these “shameful and defiant declarations, nonsensical and Pharisaic assertions,” etc.---or---are they truthful assertions/statements? Rather than going off on your [emotionally charged but SCRIPTURALLY baseless] “Pharisaic” tirades, if you do not believe they are truthful assertions/statements, simply provide the truth. The questions are simple--- If THE LORD GOD HIMSELF “…shows no partiality” (Romans 2:11)---and JESUS died to ransom people “…from every tribe and language and people and nation…,” how can a congregation (church) claim to be “CHRISTian,” that is, believers and followers of CHRIST/MESSIAH JESUS, and show partiality, i.e., nashi and nee-nashi? By and on whose authority do molokans discriminate against non-molokans? Do you believe they are inspired by THE HOLY SPIRIT to do so? So again, as someone who claims to adhere to---SOLA SCRIPTURA---and someone who, in his own words, places “great value in face to face passion for Truth,” what are the SCRIPTURAL thus truthful answers to the above questions? P.S. Unfortunately, the situation here is no different than when YESHUA asked the Pharisees to answer truthfully "face to face with THE TRUTH/HIM," and they refused to do so and instead, were offended and angry because they knew an honest/truthful answer would expose their true selves and indict them as rebels against THE TRUTH/HIM aka wrongdoers. If you are honest/truthful with YESHUA and with yourself, you cannot help but see whose actions in this situation are truly---“Pharisaic.”
  17. last/leastinline, You keep referencing---SOLA SCRIPTURA (as though you actually believe the contents)---in which is found the following: “And between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders I saw a LAMB standing, as though it had been slain, with seven horns and with seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of GOD sent out into all the earth. And HE went and took the scroll from the right hand of HIM WHO was seated on the throne. And when HE had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before THE LAMB, each holding a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. And they sang a new song, saying, ‘Worthy are YOU to take the scroll and to open its seals, for YOU were slain, and by YOUR blood YOU ransomed people for GOD from every tribe and language and people and nation, and YOU have made them a kingdom and priests to our GOD, and they shall reign on the earth.’” (Revelation 5:6-10) Now if THE LORD GOD HIMSELF “…shows no partiality” (Romans 2:11)---and JESUS died to ransom people “…from every tribe and language and people and nation…,” how can a congregation (church) claim to be “CHRISTian,” that is, believers and followers of CHRIST/MESSIAH JESUS, and show partiality, i.e., nashi and nee-nashi? If, in all honesty/truth you believe what---SOLA SCRIPTURA---says above, how do you, a member of such a congregation/church, reconcile the partiality/prejudice that molokanism teaches and exercises toward all who are “non-molokan” (nee-nashi) with the truthful teaching of---SOLA SCRIPTURA (which you keep referencing as though you actually believe the contents)---and the fact/truth that by HIS blood JESUS ransomed people “from every tribe and language and people and nation”? How can humans, created in the image of THE LORD GOD, and especially those who claim to be believers and followers of JESUS [THE] CHRIST, exhibit and exercise bias/partiality/prejudice toward other humans, created in the image of THE LORD GOD, who have been redeemed by HIS blood---when THE LORD GOD HIMSELF, through HIS blood, reconciled to HIMSELF all (black, brown, red, yellow, white) who believe in and follow HIM? By and on whose authority do molokans discriminate against non-molokans? Do you believe they are inspired by THE HOLY SPIRIT to do so?
  18. Is Is Possible?

    They cannot support their belief/faith in mgr and his falsehoods with SCRIPTURE---precisely because the falsehoods they have accepted and believe are anti/un-SCRIPTURAL (proven on more than one occasion). Therefore, they will never be able to defend their position with THE LORD GOD’S word(s) aka THE HOLY SCRIPTURES---the two are irreconcilable---hence the silence. But instead of fessing up to the fact/truth of the matter, they continue to delude themselves, as did their beloved hero/leader/mentor/shepherd/god, with the distorted view that all who do not accept the falsehoods are apostates, unbelievers, have "left the faith of their forefathers," etc., etc., etc.---any and every excuse as absurd as it may be (and is, as seen in their posts). So sad….
  19. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    Guest newname’s silence and reluctance in providing an “accurate” translation of mgr’s originals (the ones he claims he has had for years) is deafening and speaks volumes---and it becomes even more obvious that he and his maximist brethren willfully choose to ignore the ugly truths concerning their beloved hero/leader/shepherd while continuing to lull themselves into the spiritual stupor that is their signature trademark. With the truth staring them in the face, you'd think they'd finally "get it"---but no, they volitionally do not want to do so---and so be it, their choice. Sad, very sad….
  20. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    Four (4) fairly lengthy posts, including repetitive complaints about the "elementary" and sloppy translation(s) of his beloved hero's "regurgitated" (in Guest newname's words) originals, but still no "accurate" translation from Guest newname of at least the two (2) short pages (paragraphs actually) of mgr's originals from book 10, the book wherein is found the infamous---указь (decree/edict)---which Guest newname was so worked up over. Makes one wonder concerning the credibility of Guest newname's reassurance that the Russian language would not be a hindrance to him---should be a snap for a person claiming to be proficient in Russian, yet here we are, still waiting....
  21. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    Guest newname, The time and energy put into your defensive (but inaccurate) responses, especially because of your “time constraints,” weren't necessary and actually a waste of your time and the readers’ time---all you need do is provide an “accurate” translation of mgr’s unaltered/unedited originals (“SECTION(S) MISSING” above) in English on this forum, and allow the readers to judge for themselves the content and context in which his memoirs were written. Simple…. Thank you.
  22. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    Guest newname, You may want to politely ask f/m/p to put a sock in it so that he stops embarrassing himself, you, and your kind every time he opens his mouth....
  23. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    So if Guest newname isn’t certain that the copies of THE HOLY SCRIPTURES we have today are error-free, how can he, with any certainty, believe and trust the SCRIPTURAL passages he presents as proof text for his statements? And how, on what basis, does he determine which SCRIPTURAL passages are error-free (true/truth) and which are not (erroneous/false/untrue---if that were the case, but isn't)? Guest newname’s conclusion regarding his uncertainty with respect to the veracity of THE HOLY SCRIPTURES--- ---not only speaks volumes concerning his uncertainty in the inerrancy and infallibility of THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, but highlights his [unspoken but spoken] emphasis on what, within the molokan community, is believed to be---the “spoken” word of THE LORD GOD (recall f/m/p’s insistence on “spoken” versus “written” [word]) aka what is believed by its congregants to be “prophetic utterance”---that is, when an individual comes out purportedly “in THE SPIRIT,” and utters whatever he utters. This is the reason Guest newname presented the SCRIPTURAL passages from John 16:13 above as proof text for that very perspective and belief. But one must question---does Guest newname “test” these so-called “prophets” and their so-called “prophetic utterances,” and if so, how? For example, suppose a “prophet” came out “in THE SPIRIT” during a wedding (as is typical in the molokan community) in the church Guest newname is a member of, and declared that every man in the congregation is allowed to have seven wives---as spoken by the prophet Isaiah---and even opened THE HOLY SCRIPTURES to passage 4:1 in the book of Isaiah, to “confirm” his “prophetic utterance.” How would Guest newname react? Would he accept the “prophet’s” declaration as “inspiration by/of THE [HOLY] SPIRIT,” and believe it is acceptable and approved by THE LORD GOD to acquire six more wives (presuming he is married and has one wife already)? Would he question and “test” the “prophet” and the declaration as to whether it was truly “by inspiration of THE [HOLY] SPIRIT”? And if so, why and how? How would he know if what the “prophet” declared was “of THE LORD GOD” thus true/truth? And how would Guest newname view that so-called "prophet" when he discovered that the so-called "prophetic utterance" was a falsehood/lie/untruth? Would he consider the person a "true" prophet [from THE LORD GOD] or a "false" prophet inspired by a spirit, yes, but which spirit---THE SPIRIT of TRUTH or a lying spirit? This would be no different than when mgr did it during his day, and what the spin doctors have done---and yet mgr's proponents accept and believe it to be true/truth, "oooohing" and "aaaahing" at what they have been brainwashed to believe is "spiritual profundity." It must be pointed out that because of Guest newname’s (and his maximist brethen’s) uncertainty with respect to the written word(s) of THE LORD GOD aka THE HOLY SCRIPTURES---as seen in his statements---it is perfectly understandable that he would underestimate and/or ignore the written word(s) of THE LORD GOD (JESUS) with respect to---prophecy (foretelling) as revealed by JESUS in the book of Revelation: “The revelation of JESUS CHRIST, which GOD gave HIM to show to HIS servants the things that must soon take place. HE made it known by sending HIS angel to HIS servant John, who bore witness to the word of GOD and to the testimony of JESUS CHRIST, even to all that he saw. Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near.” (Revelation 1:1-3) As well as the admonition for adding and/or “taking away from the words of the prophecy of this book,” including the consequences for doing so: “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, GOD will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. HE WHO testifies to these things says, ‘Surely I am coming soon.’ Amen. Come, LORD JESUS!” (Revelation 22:18-20) It is THE SPIRIT of CHRIST aka THE SPIRIT of TRUTH aka THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO gives all those in whom HE dwells, the understanding concerning future events prophesied and revealed in the book of Revelation, as well as in the entire HOLY SCRIPTURES (Old and New Testaments). In other words, all that is necessary for one to know concerning past, present, and future events with respect to THE LORD GOD’S---salvation and a right[eous] relationship with HIM---is contained in HIS written word(s) aka THE HOLY SCRIPTURES. And if one is uncertain with respect to its contents aka inerrant infallible absolute truth, he is akin to a ship without a rudder carried about by every wind [of doctrine] and destined for disaster….(as are mgr's devotees).
  24. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    RE: dhs’ editing of the previously altered/edited published 1928 Russian [second] edition To give Guest newname an idea of how much and the type of editing that was done by the [initial] spin doctors of the published 1928 Russian [second] edition prior to dhs’ “compare and correct” translation project (which included dhs' own editing), here are some examples seen in dhs’ editing markings of the already altered/edited 1928 Russian [second] edition. In book 13, dhs crossed out article 9 completely (containing verses 1-6) with an arrow pointing to his notation which reads: Obviously, this means that what is article 9, which the spin doctors placed in book 13, did not belong in book 13, but in book 10 of the originals, between articles/chapters 15 and 16. In the same book (13), under article 10, regarding verses 1-5, dhs’ notation reads: Obviously, this means that verses 1-5 of article 10, which the spin doctors placed in book 13, did not belong in book 13, but in book 10 of the originals, between articles/chapters 15 and 16. In book 14, dhs’ notations read: Obviously, this means that the content in book 14 prior to chapter 7 verse 3-3/4 (when the originals of book 14 begin), was arbitrarily inserted by the spin doctors. Following the above notations, the text that follows is the name and/or title--- ---again with an arrow from that name/title to dhs’ notation which reads: Obviously, this means that the above name/title was taken from its original place in the [original] manuscripts (i.e., after chapter 25), and inserted as a heading at the very beginning of book 14. Following this name/title is article 1---under this article 1, were fourteen (14) Roman numerals (e.g., I, II, III, IV, etc.), and under each Roman numeral was a paragraph of text---dhs crossed out all the Roman numerals and instead spelled out the numbers (e.g., First.…; Second….; Third…., etc.), and inserted them to form the beginning of each paragraph. In other words, rather than the Roman numerals, dhs elected to begin each paragraph with cardinal numbers, spelling out the cardinal numbers, followed by the text, which looks like this: First, + [text]. Second, + [text]. Third, + [text]. Fourth, + [text]. The sentence that follows the above changes, is completely crossed out followed by dhs’ notations: “BK 14 order in manuscript--- 7:3-3/4 > 20 6:1 > 6:IV 5 all 21 > 25 1 all 26 all 3 and 4 2:1-XVII 7:1-3-3/4 27 all Not in BK 14 manuscript--- 28 XVIII 6: V 28, 29, 30 Obviously, the order of text in the altered/edited published 1928 Russian [second] edition was not the order in book 14 of the originals, and some text added in the altered/edited published 1928 Russian [second] edition which was not in book 14 of the originals. A few more examples and we're done for now. Under article 2 of the same book (14), there is an arrow that points to the notation: Obviously, article 2 in book 14 of the altered/edited published 1928 Russian [second] edition, belongs after article/chapter 4 in the originals. Under this same article (2), as with article 1---all eighteen (18) Romans numerals are crossed out with the notation: Obviously, the content that is article 2 in the altered/edited published 1928 Russian [second] edition, belongs after and/or is part of article/chapter 7 in the originals. The last paragraph under this article 2 has an arrow pointing to the notation: Obviously, this last paragraph of article 2 in book 14, belongs between articles/chapters 17 and 18 in book 10 of the originals. Article 3 of this same book (14) has an arrow pointing to the notation: Obviously, this means that article 3 in book 14 belongs after article/chapter 26 in the originals, and with corrections. And last but not least, article 5 of this same book (14) has this notation: Obviously, this means that article 5 in book 14, belongs after article/chapter 6, verse 4, in the originals. NOTE: Books 10 and 14 are the most heavily altered/edited of all the originals. One guess as to the reason? Correct---because the content in these two books in the originals is the most obscene/vile. There you are, Guest newname---a little lesson in how much and the type of editing done by both the spin doctors of the altered/edited published 1928 Russian [second] edition, and the altered/edited published English translations (1983; 2005 second edition). (BTW, FYI---dhs' 1971 work copy consists of 204 pages---176 pages of his editing the already altered/edited published 1928 Russian [second] edition, and 28 pages of the "SECTION(S) MISSING" text, which is of course, mgr's originals.) Oh what a tangled web was woven to ensnare gullible and naive individuals like Guest newname who, to date, remain bewitched and mesmerized by the vain imaginings of a self-deluded wannabe "Christ" aka "the new Jewish Messiah"---
  25. Clark Street Is Recruiting

    No, the originals are not in photograph form---they are typewritten from the handwritten---and thank you for your offer regarding the originals, however, no need. And yes, dhs, along with the initial spin doctors (all of whom are more than likely deceased by now), will most definitely give answer to THE LORD GOD for such a heinous misdeed---more so dhs, as he continues to brazenly perpetuate the deceit to date. Woe unto him....
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