seeking_truth_1 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2008 For all who would like to read it or threw it away and now reconsidered A_Labor_of_Love.pdf Remember who the author was and his zealous devotion to the s&l and maxism Much like Paul, it took a radical intervention by the Lord to "knock him from his horse" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coffee 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2009 . For all who would like to read it or threw it away and now reconsidered A_Labor_of_Love.pdf Remember who the author was and his zealous devotion to the s&l and maxism Much like Paul, it took a radical intervention by the Lord to "knock him from his horse" I just learned yesterday that AFTER the book was first translated from English into Russian, approximately 500 were printed and distributed to "Molokans" in Russia last year. Then, earlier this year, an additional 4,000 books were printed and distributed to various "Molokan" communitites in Russia. This book has become a tool to educate the previously uninformed about the person of M. G. Rudometkin and his many heresies in the Spirit and Life book, and to emphasize the importance of becoming students of what is written in the Bible. The Rudometkinites in Russia were admittedly furious when the books were initially distributed, because it is a first person testimony of someone who was once one of their own, in fact perhaps one of the most zealous and deceived of Rudomekinites to have ever lived, who when the real Jesus Christ of the Holy Scriptures introduced Himself to him in a most personal and dramatic way, he repented and renounced the false doctrines and strange teachings of the Spirit and Life book. It was his desire that the "Molokan" people whom he loved become followers of the Lord Jesus Christ in Spirit and in Truth. It would warm his heart to know that "Molokans" who were previously in jeopardy of losing their souls to the Khlystical spiritual mysticism of Rudometkin and his writings, are turning away from the false god and the false jesus, as well as the false prophecies, which are at the very core of the heresies in the Spirit and Life book, to embrace the truth about the person of Jesus Christ in the Holy Scriptures. God bless those who remain active in this ministry to inform and educate our "Molokan" people about Rudometkin's spiritual filth that is written in the Spirit and Life book. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Just curious if anyone had any feeback from the book distribution that took place in Russia. Also how is coffee doing? . For all who would like to read it or threw it away and now reconsidered A_Labor_of_Love.pdf Remember who the author was and his zealous devotion to the s&l and maxism Much like Paul, it took a radical intervention by the Lord to "knock him from his horse" I just learned yesterday that AFTER the book was first translated from English into Russian, approximately 500 were printed and distributed to "Molokans" in Russia last year. Then, earlier this year, an additional 4,000 books were printed and distributed to various "Molokan" communitites in Russia. This book has become a tool to educate the previously uninformed about the person of M. G. Rudometkin and his many heresies in the Spirit and Life book, and to emphasize the importance of becoming students of what is written in the Bible. The Rudometkinites in Russia were admittedly furious when the books were initially distributed, because it is a first person testimony of someone who was once one of their own, in fact perhaps one of the most zealous and deceived of Rudomekinites to have ever lived, who when the real Jesus Christ of the Holy Scriptures introduced Himself to him in a most personal and dramatic way, he repented and renounced the false doctrines and strange teachings of the Spirit and Life book. It was his desire that the "Molokan" people whom he loved become followers of the Lord Jesus Christ in Spirit and in Truth. It would warm his heart to know that "Molokans" who were previously in jeopardy of losing their souls to the Khlystical spiritual mysticism of Rudometkin and his writings, are turning away from the false god and the false jesus, as well as the false prophecies, which are at the very core of the heresies in the Spirit and Life book, to embrace the truth about the person of Jesus Christ in the Holy Scriptures. God bless those who remain active in this ministry to inform and educate our "Molokan" people about Rudometkin's spiritual filth that is written in the Spirit and Life book. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevepiv 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Any reports from Russia? Also, how about a distribution to Australia?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest religionizer Report post Posted March 10, 2010 For all who would like to read it or threw it away and now reconsidered A_Labor_of_Love.pdf Remember who the author was and his zealous devotion to the s&l and maxism Much like Paul, it took a radical intervention by the Lord to "knock him from his horse" I notice that he still hasn't recovered from the fall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Any reports from Russia? Also, how about a distribution to Australia?? Ya I heard its making a big impact in russia, possible printings for australia also, thanx for asking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoodDay 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 Praise God that the Truth about the spirit and life through the Labor of love has made it's way to other parts of the world and continues to. Many still get upset at this book and the writer with-out even reading it. If some Molokans can ask God to shrink their pride down a bit-He could then do a work in them. And then they would take a look for themselves and read the spirit and life for themselves. I just do not understand why some Molokans especially many of the elders of todays Molokans get so mad and feel threatened when a person confronts them with the truth in a polite way. It's no different that the day's of the pharacees. They know if they see the Truth it will expose them for what they are and it will effect thier postition in church and their building. Just as it is written in the Bible in The Gospel of John; John 11 45 Then many of the Jews who had come to Mary, and had seen the things Jesus did, believed in Him. 46 But some of them went away to the Pharisees and told them the things Jesus did. 47 Then the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered a council and said, “What shall we do? For this Man works many signs. 48 If we let Him alone like this, everyone will believe in Him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and nation.” Then here in the next chapter there are them that Know and beleived in Jesus but did not speak about Him as they feared of being kicked out and losing their position, especially amongst the leader. Same as today; John 12 42Yet at the same time many even among the leaders believed in him. But because of the Pharisees they would not confess their faith for fear they would be put out of the synagogue; 43for they loved praise from men more than praise from God. Are "position" really that important? Are they of ANY value to God?? It's OK to have Elders in a healthy church but they would lovingly and whole-heartedly speak and follow the only Christ which is found in the Holy Bible- Even in the Russian Bible that apperently is not studied by the elders but just used as a tool to please them who watch them for there own pleasure. Paul Any reports from Russia? Also, how about a distribution to Australia?? Ya I heard its making a big impact in russia, possible printings for australia also, thanx for asking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coffee 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2010 . Any reports from Russia? Also, how about a distribution to Australia?? From what I am told, the book is very popular among the "Molokan" communities in Russia, and has been very helpful to give insight into why the polarization between the Christian Molokans and the Rudometkinites has always existed. I am told that the Christian Molokans stand steadfast and have become more bold in their conviction as Bible based followers of the Lord Jesus Christ, and are not shy about telling the Rudometkinites that they have no business even calling themselves "Molokans", or for that matter, Christians. When we completed the reprint of the booklet, approximately 250 of them were distributed to "Molokans" in Australia, so our social community over there has it to read. In our experience with the Rudometkinites, the elders and church leaders are the ones who DO end up reading the material, and it is the younger, Biblically illiterate Rudometkinite zealots who are so vocal about "mouthing off" against any such information which exposes Rudometkin's many heresies that are written in the Spirit and Life book. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoodDay 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2010 It appears The real Truth about The Bible and the real falsities about the spirit and life are everywhere for people to read for themselves. It now remains on each and every person to whom they want to serve. The saddest thing is them that don't want to pick up the Bible and compare it to the false writings of MGR- and assume they are true just because people are telling them that it is. Every man and woman is accountable for the path they choose and no on else. That is such a dreaded feeling to step back and look at a time when so many of us just let the 'elders' pave our paths thinking it led to some sort of an eternity with God. May they open their hearts and drop the pride and let God work through their hearts. All they need to do, is pray and let God Himself guide them to the Truth. Paul~ . Any reports from Russia? Also, how about a distribution to Australia?? From what I am told, the book is very popular among the "Molokan" communities in Russia, and has been very helpful to give insight into why the polarization between the Christian Molokans and the Rudometkinites has always existed. I am told that the Christian Molokans stand steadfast and have become more bold in their conviction as Bible based followers of the Lord Jesus Christ, and are not shy about telling the Rudometkinites that they have no business even calling themselves "Molokans", or for that matter, Christians. When we completed the reprint of the booklet, approximately 250 of them were distributed to "Molokans" in Australia, so our social community over there has it to read. In our experience with the Rudometkinites, the elders and church leaders are the ones who DO end up reading the material, and it is the younger, Biblically illiterate Rudometkinite zealots who are so vocal about "mouthing off" against any such information which exposes Rudometkin's many heresies that are written in the Spirit and Life book. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lastinline 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2010 coffee' date='Mar 13 2010, 12:49 PM' post='51892' In our experience with the Rudometkinites, the elders and church leaders are the ones who DO end up reading the material, and it is the younger, Biblically illiterate Rudometkinite zealots who are so vocal about "mouthing off" against any such information which exposes Rudometkin's many heresies that are written in the Spirit and Life book. I pretty much agree with you on mgr heresy zealotry by young Biblical illiterates, although one individual at Lake Avenue, in a somewhat mysterious way became a mgr heresy zealot later in life as way to become the major POWER broker presently at Lake Avenue. It seems that he had come to the determination that his non-zealotry for the mgr heresy in his earlier years, had in someway caused the falling apart of his dream of all his children becoming good upstanding Molokans. His speeches now, especially with a young audience are, "don't you dare leave our beloved Molokan (new israel) belief system or you are doomed." He will for the most part try to openly bring hostility toward any teaching that could even remotely be construed as non-Molokan. In talking to many average Lake Avenue members, they will openly in private conversations offer a great deal of disdain for how he has changed the generally comfortable atmosphere of tolerance to fear and open hostility of the Gospel being preached. lastinline (& wow what a view from here) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Shubin 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2010 coffee' date='Mar 13 2010, 12:49 PM' post='51892' In our experience with the Rudometkinites, the elders and church leaders are the ones who DO end up reading the material, and it is the younger, Biblically illiterate Rudometkinite zealots who are so vocal about "mouthing off" against any such information which exposes Rudometkin's many heresies that are written in the Spirit and Life book. I pretty much agree with you on mgr heresy zealotry by young Biblical illiterates, although one individual at Lake Avenue, in a somewhat mysterious way became a mgr heresy zealot later in life as way to become the major POWER broker presently at Lake Avenue. It seems that he had come to the determination that his non-zealotry for the mgr heresy in his earlier years, had in someway caused the falling apart of his dream of all his children becoming good upstanding Molokans. His speeches now, especially with a young audience are, "don't you dare leave our beloved Molokan (new israel) belief system or you are doomed." He will for the most part try to openly bring hostility toward any teaching that could even remotely be construed as non-Molokan. In talking to many average Lake Avenue members, they will openly in private conversations offer a great deal of disdain for how he has changed the generally comfortable atmosphere of tolerance to fear and open hostility of the Gospel being preached. lastinline (& wow what a view from here) In my "zealous" youth, i used to make fun of the person that you are talking about. It got me angry when we sang a certain song, and he would replace the words "king of spirits" with "king of kings" in my old way of thinking, it was heresey that this man would dare dishonor our "annointed" leader, and that he would preach from the Bible. Imagine my surprise, when years later, i'm at a doing, and this man is asked to speak, and that's all he spoke about was our forefathers, how special we are, etc..He turned his back on the true Gospel, and substituted it, for another. I was shocked! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lastinline 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2010 'Nick Shubin' date='Mar 16 2010, 09:06 AM' post='52192' In my "zealous" youth, i used to make fun of the person that you are talking about. It got me angry when we sang a certain song, and he would replace the words "king of spirits" with "king of kings" in my old way of thinking, it was heresey that this man would dare dishonor our "annointed" leader, and that he would preach from the Bible. Imagine my surprise, when years later, i'm at a doing, and this man is asked to speak, and that's all he spoke about was our forefathers, how special we are, etc..He turned his back on the true Gospel, and substituted it, for another. I was shocked! Yup, you hit the nail on the head! His belief that he is on mission to get rid of the chaff. Benches gathering dust in the corner on a regular Resurrection Service (sunday) is of NO concern to him. lastinline (& still up close and personal) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LTTBT 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2010 'Nick Shubin' date='Mar 16 2010, 09:06 AM' post='52192' In my "zealous" youth, i used to make fun of the person that you are talking about. It got me angry when we sang a certain song, and he would replace the words "king of spirits" with "king of kings" in my old way of thinking, it was heresey that this man would dare dishonor our "annointed" leader, and that he would preach from the Bible. Imagine my surprise, when years later, i'm at a doing, and this man is asked to speak, and that's all he spoke about was our forefathers, how special we are, etc..He turned his back on the true Gospel, and substituted it, for another. I was shocked! Yup, you hit the nail on the head! His belief that he is on mission to get rid of the chaff. Benches gathering dust in the corner on a regular Resurrection Service (sunday) is of NO concern to him. lastinline (& still up close and personal) In a word...............pride. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lastinline 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2010 'LTTBT' date='Mar 16 2010, 12:30 PM' post='52208' In a word...............pride. May I please add one more word.........arrogant pride ! And, of course, he is quite proud of believing (without basis) that he is adequately able to understand and convey to others deep Biblical Truths to Molokans in the Russian tongue, solely because he took a class (very part-time) at Fresno Pacific University. Quick Reminder: 1 Corinthians 14: 18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than any of you. 19 But in a church meeting I would rather speak five understandable words to help others than ten thousand words in an unknown language. NLT 1-е Коринфянам 14: 18 Благодарю Бога моего: я более всех вас говорю языками; 19 но в церкви хочу лучше пять слов сказать умом моим, чтобы и других наставить, нежели тьму слов на [незнакомом] языке. lastinline (with and eye on the prize) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeking_truth_1 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2012 Here's the thread for wondering that has a link to download a copy of "Labor of Love" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevepiv 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2013 To the top for any new readers that haven't seen this yet. Please take the time and read this booklet put together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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