NAD923 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2010 Steve posted this in "what are watching" (I'm not sure how to bring them up in quote bubbles, so cut and paste, this will have to do for now) Titus 3:4 "But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, 5 He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of His mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life." It's up to Him! "MIGHT" The Jesus I understand is the one that came to judge and separate not put every one in one big pile. In the 1700's, in Russia, when everyone that left the orthodox, why didn't they all stay in one big group? Why where the virgins separated? Didn' they want the same thing? "If you believe this you're going to get there." "If you don't believe this you're not going to get there." Two sentences that say the same thing. (Collective)If you think by going into the world and saving people is your calling, that is your choice don't drag others into it. If they are called they will come and join you of their own accord. (end) BY HIS mercy we are put on the right hand side of him. How much can we do to earn this? We have no power to get there ourselves, all we can do is HOPE that how we have lived and conducted ourselves, IS enough for Him to put us there. I can imagine at judgement Him saying- "I put you here and you went there" "I gave you this to do, and you did that" "I separated and you joined" "I gave you prophets and leaders and you did not listen to My instructions" And so on! Are we so sure of ourselves that we are willing to climb out of the basket that HE put us in and get into another? What would he say/ask? What would be our answer? God gave us free wills but the Spirit guides our thoughts. Some are guided by the true Spirit, others by the other one (MGR 1:4). And both say they're doing Gods work. So again- "My Spirit tells me that the Jesus that is being taught here is false. Your Spirit tells you that the Jesus not taught here is false." Get my point now? NAD. Hi NAD, We (and I say this as we as in everyone - you, me, anyone we know or don't know) can not "earn" Salvation. We can not sit around and hope that the way we live and conduct ourselves is enough. There are many people who live and conduct themselves well, probably beyond what I or you or others we know. They may look great on the outside doing all the right things, but if they (or you, or I) are missing that one thing, guess what? It doesn't add up to anything. That person who appears all shiny and nice and well presented (who does all the right things) will end up in the very same place as those who are malicious, cruel, and corrupt if their salvation is not based soley on Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ only. You want a leader and instructions? See: Jesus Christ for a rock solid foundation and leadership See: The Bible for instructions Everything is right there in black and white - nothing more nothing less needed. Ever. What basket? Who is telling you or anyone else to climb out of a basket? I asked a general question to anyone (not just you) based on a scenaro. The question was if you had to choose between the Bible and the Spirit and Life for survival, which one book would you pick? Your travel itinerary states that you can bring a limited list of necessities including a compass, a first aid kit, some limited provisions, and one survival book. You have only have two books available. One book is the Bible. The other book is the Spirit and Life. Remember, you can only bring one book with you - there is no way you can take both. Which book would you choose and why? The book you choose will be an absolute indication of your final destination. You (and anyone else) need the right book to survive - especially in that basket. So, which book did you choose? I'll tell you the one I have chosen - The Bible. YES that's it! You have chosen your path to salvation. I have chosen my path to salvation. GOD is the judge, as He said about Barnabas "...I will give mercy to those that I choose...." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeking_truth_1 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2010 There aren't multiple paths to Salvation, only ONE Seeing as you cannot back up your "path to Salvation" with the Bible you're on very dangerous ground eternally Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAD923 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2010 There aren't multiple paths to Salvation, only ONE Seeing as you cannot back up your "path to Salvation" with the Bible you're on very dangerous ground eternally How can you say that? Paths or understandings, if we where the same person and had the same understanding that would be OUR path. But I am not you and you are not me, so how can you say that? You don't know where Jesus is in my life, and I don't know where He is in yours. We can quote 'till the cows come home but that doesn't make us right. "...I have no need for your offerings, what I am looking for is a clean heart..." Jonn 14- 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. There ARE different paths but our goal is the same! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeking_truth_1 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2010 Who is Jesus? Is He God in flesh? Is the Bible the inerrant Word of God? How is Salvation secured? There aren't multiple paths to Salvation, only ONE Seeing as you cannot back up your "path to Salvation" with the Bible you're on very dangerous ground eternally How can you say that? Paths or understandings, if we where the same person and had the same understanding that would be OUR path. But I am not you and you are not me, so how can you say that? You don't know where Jesus is in my life, and I don't know where He is in yours. We can quote 'till the cows come home but that doesn't make us right. "...I have no need for your offerings, what I am looking for is a clean heart..." Jonn 14- 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. There ARE different paths but our goal is the same! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
little koshka 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2010 YES that's it! You have chosen your path to salvation. I have chosen my path to salvation. GOD is the judge, as He said about Barnabas "...I will give mercy to those that I choose...." Hi NAD, Thanks for your response. Do you praise and worship Jesus? Thanks, lk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoodDay 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) Nad, A Christian should know where Jesus Christ is in another's life. That's what makes them Brothers. That's what gives them thier idenity. He is the one who died on the cross for them that accept and believe and follow Him. 1Peter 3 13Who is going to harm you if you are eager to do good? 14But even if you should suffer for what is right, you are blessed. "Do not fear what they fear; do not be frightened."[c] 15But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, 16keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander. 17It is better, if it is God's will, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.color] Also here Romans 1:18 Paul speaking. 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Jesus should be everywhere in a Christian's life. He is our Saviour, Our Lord. He is the one that died so we can have life. He is the one we cling too and communicate with always. He is our friend. He is the one is part of the Godhead who corrects us. He is the one who gives us what we need and take away what we don't need. He is the cornerstone. He is the head of the Church. He is the gate. The way, the Truth. Our example of what to allow the Holy Spirit to renew us closer to who He is everyday. He is Everything. We should allways be ready too share Him with the lost. We should always be openly joyful to speak about Him with others to uplift , and encourage etc. Jesus Christ is everything and everywhere in a Christians life. There aren't multiple paths to Salvation, only ONE Seeing as you cannot back up your "path to Salvation" with the Bible you're on very dangerous ground eternally How can you say that? Paths or understandings, if we where the same person and had the same understanding that would be OUR path. But I am not you and you are not me, so how can you say that? You don't know where Jesus is in my life, and I don't know where He is in yours. We can quote 'till the cows come home but that doesn't make us right. "...I have no need for your offerings, what I am looking for is a clean heart..." Jonn 14- 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. There ARE different paths but our goal is the same! Edited March 8, 2010 by GoodDay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Shubin 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 How can you say that? Paths or understandings, if we where the same person and had the same understanding that would be OUR path. But I am not you and you are not me, so how can you say that? So, the buhdist,, the athiest, the agnostic, the mormon, the jehovas witness, are they just on different paths to Heaven? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeking_truth_1 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 From this statment by NAD I conclude he believes that Jews, Muslims & Buddhists "believe a little different" Nothing could be further from the truth Come on guys, Lets not argue- who-where-why and how, lets just DO! Let THEM guide you not some "Bible bashing" false teacher! If you feel that you should share your love for Jesus, fine! Do it! Why bash or bully those that believe a little different? Are you going to do the same to another Christian (ne-nash),(or Jew, Muslim, Buddist etc.) that you do to the people on this site? NO! They will walk away, and send you to hell! So whats different here? How can you say that? Paths or understandings, if we where the same person and had the same understanding that would be OUR path. But I am not you and you are not me, so how can you say that? So, the buhdist,, the athiest, the agnostic, the mormon, the jehovas witness, are they just on different paths to Heaven? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAD923 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 Who is Jesus? Is He God in flesh? Is the Bible the inerrant Word of God? How is Salvation secured? Who is Jesus?- Son of God Is He God in flesh?- Not as you beleive. Is the Bible the inerrant Word of God?- Mostly history but yes. How is Salvation secured?- By the mercy of God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAD923 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 YES that's it! You have chosen your path to salvation. I have chosen my path to salvation. GOD is the judge, as He said about Barnabas "...I will give mercy to those that I choose...." Hi NAD, Thanks for your response. Do you praise and worship Jesus? Thanks, lk LK, With all my heart and soul, every day and night. I thank Him for His teachings and examples that I may live my life in peace. I thank Him, that by His death and resurrection, I MAY have forgiveness of sin. I thank God, that He did not destroy His creation but SENT His Son to take the sins of the saints and give us redemption. I thank THEM that they sent the Holy Spirit in the Third Face, so that we may inherit the promise. I thank THEM for the seperation and judgment (wheat from the chaff). I thank THEM that my eyes have been opened to truth and the falsehood of this world. I ask THEM that all of the things that are to come, transpire quickly so that we may witness the glory of God through the 2 witnesses, and rejoice of the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and tha all of His sheep be united under one banner. May all those that hate them (sheep) be destroyed on feild of battle of Armageddon. See our fore fathers at the first resurrection, and be called to the wedding feast of the Lamb. Then for a 1000 years give glory to Them that sit on the thrones. THROUGH Their anointed our King and leader, the Third face and the Spirit of Truth. AMEN. Are you okay with that or do you need more? How about you do you praise and worship God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit? Or just Jesus? NAD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAD923 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 How can you say that? Paths or understandings, if we where the same person and had the same understanding that would be OUR path. But I am not you and you are not me, so how can you say that? So, the buhdist,, the athiest, the agnostic, the mormon, the jehovas witness, are they just on different paths to Heaven? Paul, Nick, When we used to hang I THOUGHT I knew how you guys believed. DIFFERENT paths have brought us together again. And same again I think I know how you believe. Your love for Jesus is apparent, as is mine. Your understanding is different from mine but we want the same thing. ALL religions are after the same goal, peace and ever lasting life, and all have a different understanding of heaven. That's my point, understand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Shubin 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 How can you say that? Paths or understandings, if we where the same person and had the same understanding that would be OUR path. But I am not you and you are not me, so how can you say that? So, the buhdist,, the athiest, the agnostic, the mormon, the jehovas witness, are they just on different paths to Heaven? Paul, Nick, When we used to hang I THOUGHT I knew how you guys believed. DIFFERENT paths have brought us together again. And same again I think I know how you believe. Your love for Jesus is apparent, as is mine. Your understanding is different from mine but we want the same thing. ALL religions are after the same goal, peace and ever lasting life, and all have a different understanding of heaven. That's my point, understand? Nad, by what you say, you are calling Christ a liar. Did he not say Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. From Christs time until now, there have been many different "paths" preached. Why do you think there are so many warnings given in the new testament regarding false teachers and false gospels? Let's look at some of the warnings. Christ Himself says, 8 “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; 9 in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’” Further warnings, 3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound [1] teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. Still more warnings, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability. There is but one faith, or one path. 4 There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call— 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. I never really went for the whole fire and brimstone type of preaching, but in truth, we as beleivers are not performing our duty to it's fullest by not doing so! The truth is this, unless one repents, and is washed clean from sin, and follows the one true gospel, or path, that person will suffer eternal seperation from GOD! So, where is the truth to be found? Is it in the word of God, found in Scripture? Or is it in a mixed up bag of beliefs where a little is taken from here, and a little is taken from there? This is what we believe! 16 Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He [5] was manifested in the flesh, vindicated [6] by the Spirit, [7] seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAD923 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 As for "Fire and brimstone" that wasn't a bad effort! Read Paul where he writes to the different groups, aren't the messages a little different? Isn't meaning the same? Weren't the paths that they were on a little different? I have another question (I don't know if this is the right place to ask but..) Do you accept (collective) the WHOLE Bible as truth or just the New Testament? If YES, do you fulfill every thing written in it? You commented on the "obradi", "if you don't do them fully........." I ask the same of you about the Bible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoodDay 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 Nad, Back then, sure, I heard of Jesus that died on the cross and thought it was a really event but that was it. I didn't have a clue who Jesus was in A Christian way. At that, I would go to church on occasion to sing and then to drink with the buddies right after. I look back and see that I couldn't have been any further away from God. Oprah Winfrey believes that people can make "God" whomever they want as they will all have peace and go to heaven and that they strive to live good. If she knew Jesus, she would be in a great place to share the Gospel. The reality is that ALL belief system lead to God, but only one leads to an eternity in heaven. The ones that stand before God on that day that came from a different path are cast out. I can see you love to worship a "god." But with Maxcim as part of the picture it is a deferent god. You are striving for something Nad, for something one cannot strive for but just need to accept in faith. Ephesians 2 8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. I like you Nad and always have and I can tell you still are the same guy by your politness. It would be nice if you lived near here to meet up some time. It's hard to discuss this way. I just want to say that, you don't need to "Strive," you just need to accept and believe in faith that that Jesus is the only way as Nick posted. All others path will only make it to God for judgmen one day. Have a great day! Paul How can you say that? Paths or understandings, if we where the same person and had the same understanding that would be OUR path. But I am not you and you are not me, so how can you say that? So, the buhdist,, the athiest, the agnostic, the mormon, the jehovas witness, are they just on different paths to Heaven? Paul, Nick, When we used to hang I THOUGHT I knew how you guys believed. DIFFERENT paths have brought us together again. And same again I think I know how you believe. Your love for Jesus is apparent, as is mine. Your understanding is different from mine but we want the same thing. ALL religions are after the same goal, peace and ever lasting life, and all have a different understanding of heaven. That's my point, understand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAD923 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 IN Proverbs it says, "...PICK A PATH and whole heartedly follow it.." "A" path not "THE" path. Later it writes "...and you will get your JUST reward..." IS my way the true way? Or IS IT yours? The guy next to you? Up the street? We are all "CHRISTIANS". HE/THEY haven't heard our message. Are he/they not saved? They know Christ and live by His will. Are they on the wrong path? Or are they on a DIFFERENT path? If we where on the same path all of our names would be Bob (collective) we would all live in the same big house, have the same thoughts, wear the same clothes etc. We are different thus are on different paths. Get my point now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LTTBT 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 No wonder you people can't carry on reasoning. Everybody's using the same word "path" and using it in a verity of definitions/applications........wow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Shubin 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 As for "Fire and brimstone" that wasn't a bad effort! Read Paul where he writes to the different groups, aren't the messages a little different? Isn't meaning the same? Weren't the paths that they were on a little different? I have another question (I don't know if this is the right place to ask but..) Do you accept (collective) the WHOLE Bible as truth or just the New Testament? If YES, do you fulfill every thing written in it? You commented on the "obradi", "if you don't do them fully........." I ask the same of you about the Bible. Paul was writting to the various congregations of the same faith. He exhorted some, corrected some, and rebuked others. So i'm not sure where you are going with this. Yes i accept the Bible as a whole. IF i were able to uphold the law, and live in perfect harmony with Scripture, i would have no need of a Saviour. Since you decided to answer my e-mail here, i'll ask the question again, here. Do you fulfill all of mgrs order of worship? Or do you take what you like, and disgard the rest? You, and those like you are in a tough spot. Christian Molokans don't accept you, and neither do the true followers of mgr, you, as fourvetta puts it, are "pseudo maximisti" Like i told you in my e-mail, i enjoyed our conversation, and thought we could continue on. If you want to stop, and bring the conversation here, that's fine. But i really don't know what else to say to you. I have pointed you to scripture to show what, and why i believe what i do. All i get from you, is YOUR opinion, based on what you have been taught by your elders your whole life. Will these elders be standing with you before the throne of judgement? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LTTBT 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 There aren't multiple paths to Salvation, only ONE Seeing as you cannot back up your "path to Salvation" with the Bible you're on very dangerous ground eternally How can you say that? Paths or understandings, if we where the same person and had the same understanding that would be OUR path. But I am not you and you are not me, so how can you say that? You don't know where Jesus is in my life, and I don't know where He is in yours. We can quote 'till the cows come home but that doesn't make us right. "...I have no need for your offerings, what I am looking for is a clean heart..." Jonn 14- 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. There ARE different paths but our goal is the same! Am I getting warm......... There is only one way Salvation is obtained, but many paths (which all are narrow) to experience the continuing act of Salvation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAD923 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 There aren't multiple paths to Salvation, only ONE Seeing as you cannot back up your "path to Salvation" with the Bible you're on very dangerous ground eternally How can you say that? Paths or understandings, if we where the same person and had the same understanding that would be OUR path. But I am not you and you are not me, so how can you say that? You don't know where Jesus is in my life, and I don't know where He is in yours. We can quote 'till the cows come home but that doesn't make us right. "...I have no need for your offerings, what I am looking for is a clean heart..." Jonn 14- 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. There ARE different paths but our goal is the same! Am I getting warm......... There is only one way Salvation is obtained, but many paths (which all are narrow) to experience the continuing act of Salvation. Very warm! By the mercy of God we WILL get there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAD923 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 As for "Fire and brimstone" that wasn't a bad effort! Read Paul where he writes to the different groups, aren't the messages a little different? Isn't meaning the same? Weren't the paths that they were on a little different? I have another question (I don't know if this is the right place to ask but..) Do you accept (collective) the WHOLE Bible as truth or just the New Testament? If YES, do you fulfill every thing written in it? You commented on the "obradi", "if you don't do them fully........." I ask the same of you about the Bible. Paul was writting to the various congregations of the same faith. He exhorted some, corrected some, and rebuked others. So i'm not sure where you are going with this. Yes i accept the Bible as a whole. IF i were able to uphold the law, and live in perfect harmony with Scripture, i would have no need of a Saviour. Since you decided to answer my e-mail here, i'll ask the question again, here. Do you fulfill all of mgrs order of worship? Or do you take what you like, and disgard the rest? You, and those like you are in a tough spot. Christian Molokans don't accept you, and neither do the true followers of mgr, you, as fourvetta puts it, are "pseudo maximisti" Like i told you in my e-mail, i enjoyed our conversation, and thought we could continue on. If you want to stop, and bring the conversation here, that's fine. But i really don't know what else to say to you. I have pointed you to scripture to show what, and why i believe what i do. All i get from you, is YOUR opinion, based on what you have been taught by your elders your whole life. Will these elders be standing with you before the throne of judgement? No, I like our private talks, I'm sorry that I touched on those points! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Report post Posted March 11, 2010 How Many Roads Must A Man Walk Down Before He Admits He's lost? There aren't multiple paths to Salvation, only ONE Seeing as you cannot back up your "path to Salvation" with the Bible you're on very dangerous ground eternally How can you say that? Paths or understandings, if we where the same person and had the same understanding that would be OUR path. But I am not you and you are not me, so how can you say that? You don't know where Jesus is in my life, and I don't know where He is in yours. We can quote 'till the cows come home but that doesn't make us right. "...I have no need for your offerings, what I am looking for is a clean heart..." Jonn 14- 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. There ARE different paths but our goal is the same! Am I getting warm......... There is only one way Salvation is obtained, but many paths (which all are narrow) to experience the continuing act of Salvation. Very warm! By the mercy of God we WILL get there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoodDay 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 Sure, we all may have a different "Journey" in are Christian life. BUT there is only ONE PATH; Jesus Christ, The Holy Bible is all about Jesus Christ which has been posted over and over again. Forget what you may see on TV and out in "the world." Some of that IS false. Read the Bible by itself and you will see there is NO NEED for another book such as spirit and life. It's a false gospel and it's easy to see that. MGR is NOT that path, and he is NOT even part of the journey. For him to create a NEW path, that wipes out EVERYTHING Jesus Christ ever did and the Holy Bible is worthless. NAD, you cannot use both books. If I want to drive from here to Washington DC, I MUST go east. If I drive west I will get to the ocean and end up drowning. Many of us Molokans were born into today's Molokans believing everything we hear from our parents and at church. We were told EVERYTHING else was false. Our true forefathers before mgr new this truth and they never told us to do what we see happening to day in today's Molokanism. If I was told as a child to believe in the woman of Christian science and she was true I would have followed that too. I would have followed ANYTHING. As long as one keeps the Bible and the spirit and life and uses them as equal, they will never see the Truth. NAD, what you happen if you read the Bible only for a year and held off on the spirit and life? Do you feel that you were saved back when we used to hang out here years ago? If not what has happened since then? If so, why is that? I WAS NOT saved in anyway what so ever until of very recent. Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LTTBT 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 How Many Roads Must A Man Walk Down Before He Admits He's lost? There aren't multiple paths to Salvation, only ONE Seeing as you cannot back up your "path to Salvation" with the Bible you're on very dangerous ground eternally How can you say that? Paths or understandings, if we where the same person and had the same understanding that would be OUR path. But I am not you and you are not me, so how can you say that? You don't know where Jesus is in my life, and I don't know where He is in yours. We can quote 'till the cows come home but that doesn't make us right. "...I have no need for your offerings, what I am looking for is a clean heart..." Jonn 14- 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. There ARE different paths but our goal is the same! Am I getting warm......... There is only one way Salvation is obtained, but many paths (which all are narrow) to experience the continuing act of Salvation. Very warm! By the mercy of God we WILL get there! Only God and that man knows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LTTBT 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 There aren't multiple paths to Salvation, only ONE Seeing as you cannot back up your "path to Salvation" with the Bible you're on very dangerous ground eternally How can you say that? Paths or understandings, if we where the same person and had the same understanding that would be OUR path. But I am not you and you are not me, so how can you say that? You don't know where Jesus is in my life, and I don't know where He is in yours. We can quote 'till the cows come home but that doesn't make us right. "...I have no need for your offerings, what I am looking for is a clean heart..." Jonn 14- 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. There ARE different paths but our goal is the same! Am I getting warm......... There is only one way Salvation is obtained, but many paths (which all are narrow) to experience the continuing act of Salvation. Very warm! By the mercy of God we WILL get there! The path in your context is the journeys we go on in our individual walk with Christ. That's not hard to grasp, I don't know why everybody else doesn't see that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
little koshka 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 YES that's it! You have chosen your path to salvation. I have chosen my path to salvation. GOD is the judge, as He said about Barnabas "...I will give mercy to those that I choose...." Hi NAD, Thanks for your response. Do you praise and worship Jesus? Thanks, lk LK, With all my heart and soul, every day and night. I thank Him for His teachings and examples that I may live my life in peace. I thank Him, that by His death and resurrection, I MAY have forgiveness of sin. I thank God, that He did not destroy His creation but SENT His Son to take the sins of the saints and give us redemption. I thank THEM that they sent the Holy Spirit in the Third Face, so that we may inherit the promise. I thank THEM for the seperation and judgment (wheat from the chaff). I thank THEM that my eyes have been opened to truth and the falsehood of this world. I ask THEM that all of the things that are to come, transpire quickly so that we may witness the glory of God through the 2 witnesses, and rejoice of the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and tha all of His sheep be united under one banner. May all those that hate them (sheep) be destroyed on feild of battle of Armageddon. See our fore fathers at the first resurrection, and be called to the wedding feast of the Lamb. Then for a 1000 years give glory to Them that sit on the thrones. THROUGH Their anointed our King and leader, the Third face and the Spirit of Truth. AMEN. Are you okay with that or do you need more? How about you do you praise and worship God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit? Or just Jesus? NAD Hi NAD, And thanks for your answer, and by your answer I gather that you acknowledge the Trinity? I praise and worship God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit as One. As you praise and worship Jesus Christ as you stated, does that mean that you are obedient to His Word? lk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAD923 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 YES that's it! You have chosen your path to salvation. I have chosen my path to salvation. GOD is the judge, as He said about Barnabas "...I will give mercy to those that I choose...." Hi NAD, Thanks for your response. Do you praise and worship Jesus? Thanks, lk LK, With all my heart and soul, every day and night. I thank Him for His teachings and examples that I may live my life in peace. I thank Him, that by His death and resurrection, I MAY have forgiveness of sin. I thank God, that He did not destroy His creation but SENT His Son to take the sins of the saints and give us redemption. I thank THEM that they sent the Holy Spirit in the Third Face, so that we may inherit the promise. I thank THEM for the seperation and judgment (wheat from the chaff). I thank THEM that my eyes have been opened to truth and the falsehood of this world. I ask THEM that all of the things that are to come, transpire quickly so that we may witness the glory of God through the 2 witnesses, and rejoice of the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and tha all of His sheep be united under one banner. May all those that hate them (sheep) be destroyed on feild of battle of Armageddon. See our fore fathers at the first resurrection, and be called to the wedding feast of the Lamb. Then for a 1000 years give glory to Them that sit on the thrones. THROUGH Their anointed our King and leader, the Third face and the Spirit of Truth. AMEN. Are you okay with that or do you need more? How about you do you praise and worship God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit? Or just Jesus? NAD Hi NAD, And thanks for your answer, and by your answer I gather that you acknowledge the Trinity? I praise and worship God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit as One. As you praise and worship Jesus Christ as you stated, does that mean that you are obedient to His Word? lk I love God And I love my neighbour- that's all I need to answer! Trinity- yes. Trinity doctrine no (I'm not catholic) God. The Son. The Holy Spirit. NOT -GODTHESONTHEHOLYSPIRIT. LK- IF YOUR A MOLOKAN GET OF THIS SITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeking_truth_1 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 You're identified 3 parts Father, Son & Holy Spirit Are they not One? Or is there "three gods"? I love God And I love my neighbour- that's all I need to answer! Trinity- yes. Trinity doctrine no (I'm not catholic) God. The Son. The Holy Spirit. NOT -GODTHESONTHEHOLYSPIRIT. LK- IF YOUR A MOLOKAN GET OF THIS SITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites