Guest amenbro Report post Posted March 25, 2010 Personally Kevin, I think you spend way to much time thinking about your sexual hangups...even now. You talk about it like you are proud or something. Not everyone is ****** to pics of naked men on the internet, and not everyone wants to hear that you are possibly attracted to others more than your wife. Maybe you ought to just unplug the ethernet cable instead. We have bigger fish to fry...with spiritual adultery, and worshipping false gods. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeking_truth_1 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2010 Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks Look at yourself in the mirror and speak about doing those things Look at yourself in the mirror and say "queer" Look at yourself in the mirror and say you "spiritual adulterer" Look at yourself in the mirror and say you are "worshipping false gods" Look at yourself in the mirror and say you are "possibly attracted to others more than your wife" Honestly when someone continues to talk about such things so boldly accusing others it really points to YOU Personally Kevin, I think you spend way to much time thinking about your sexual hangups...even now. You talk about it like you are proud or something. Not everyone is ****** to pics of naked men on the internet, and not everyone wants to hear that you are possibly attracted to others more than your wife. Maybe you ought to just unplug the ethernet cable instead. We have bigger fish to fry...with spiritual adultery, and worshipping false gods. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest amenbro Report post Posted March 25, 2010 Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks Look at yourself in the mirror and speak about doing those things Look at yourself in the mirror and say "queer" Honestly when someone continues to talk about such things so boldly accusing others it really points to YOU Personally Kevin, I think you spend way to much time thinking about your sexual hangups...even now. You talk about it like you are proud or something. Not everyone is ****** to pics of naked men on the internet, and not everyone wants to hear that you are possibly attracted to others more than your wife. Maybe you ought to just unplug the ethernet cable instead. We have bigger fish to fry...with spiritual adultery, and worshipping false gods. Ok seekingthelies. Give up on the ###### spewing already. I'm only stating the obvious. Kevin has sexual hangups. I don't. You can claim all you want about someone you don't know. I can claim all I want about someone I do know. So please give your verbal assaults a rest already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeking_truth_1 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2010 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" (Romans 3:23) 8 ¶ If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. (1 John 1:8-10) 27 ¶ Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. (Matthew 5:27-28) You are the one spewing the perverse garbage 34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. (Matthew 12:34-37) It's quite obvious your sin looks better on someone else...doesn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Scorcho Grande Report post Posted March 25, 2010 So putting a conniving monk on a par with Christ is not Spiritual Adultery? I think you are going to be unpleasantly surprised at the answer to that question. You seem far more hurt by Kevin's acceptance of Christ, and more concerned with his not toeing the Molokan line than with his spiritual well being. Does this hit home for you? Are you jealous? Are you so deluded that you don't think Molokans sin? I know more than a couple who have been guilty of gambling, drinking, pre-marital sex, and so on. I think I know one who is guilty of harboring hatred for his brother. We all have sin and saying that your sin is less than that of your brother isn't really doing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoodDay 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Amen! It really does seem that again, another Molokan of today misses the whole meaning of why Jesus Christ died on the cross. Him and others feel that molokans can do what-ever they want as long as it's with other molokans or that they make sure not to get caught. If everyone one in the world kept their past and their testimonies to themselves what would we have? Oh, that's right, that's what Molokanism of today is. Iv'e never heard 'elders' talk about their testamonies of how and when they accepted Christ? Why is that? To amenbro, What does ###### mean? You seem to use it a lot? So putting a conniving monk on a par with Christ is not Spiritual Adultery? I think you are going to be unpleasantly surprised at the answer to that question. You seem far more hurt by Kevin's acceptance of Christ, and more concerned with his not toeing the Molokan line than with his spiritual well being. Does this hit home for you? Are you jealous? Are you so deluded that you don't think Molokans sin? I know more than a couple who have been guilty of gambling, drinking, pre-marital sex, and so on. I think I know one who is guilty of harboring hatred for his brother. We all have sin and saying that your sin is less than that of your brother isn't really doing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest amenbro Report post Posted March 26, 2010 So putting a conniving monk on a par with Christ is not Spiritual Adultery? I think you are going to be unpleasantly surprised at the answer to that question. You seem far more hurt by Kevin's acceptance of Christ, and more concerned with his not toeing the Molokan line than with his spiritual well being. Does this hit home for you? Are you jealous? Are you so deluded that you don't think Molokans sin? I know more than a couple who have been guilty of gambling, drinking, pre-marital sex, and so on. I think I know one who is guilty of harboring hatred for his brother. We all have sin and saying that your sin is less than that of your brother isn't really doing it. This discussion (if you can call it that) is not about what I think of Molokans....but yes, they sin just like everyone else. So what. What bothers me is when a so-called "brother" starts publicizing his being caught red handed by his own wife messing around with the ****** in front of his computer and using that as a pedestal for his new founded christianity. Why not simply preach Christ's redemption and quit making a darn mockery of it all. It's all just turnin into a hippie love in with all the trappings and trimming of Christ, but no real Christ. Where's the beef? ; ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinPolyaNazaroff 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Personally Kevin, I think you spend way to much time thinking about your sexual hangups...even now. I do not think about my past sins as much as I think about God and His will in my life. I am no longer hung up on sexual sins. But, I do choose to share my past in order to help those who are still in the depths of sin. Personally, I would love to hear your testimony and how God delivered you from the depths of sin. It is not an easy thing to do. Gooday mentioned that some people shudder when they hear somebody open up and share their past. I too used to think this way. I used to think that it was not necessary to open up our lives to each other. But I say this, to live in secret, even as a christian, is completely anti-christian. Jesus said... 2 “But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. 3 “Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed upon the housetops. Lk 12:2-3 NASB But God called me to do His will, and I am not my own, but belong to Him. I take my orders from Him, and it is my desire to fulfill His desires, not my own. I do not need to confess my sins on here in order to try and get right with God. I choose to share the past, in order to give glory to God. Paul had no problem telling people how much of a sinner he was in his past... 1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. . Eph 2:1-9 NASB You talk about it like you are proud or something. Not everyone is ****** to pics of naked men on the internet, and not everyone wants to hear that you are possibly attracted to others more than your wife. Maybe you ought to just unplug the ethernet cable instead. We have bigger fish to fry...with spiritual adultery, and worshipping false gods. I am not proud of my past, only thankful that God pulled me out of it. But it came at a cost. Someone had to die in order to pull me out of the depths of sin. Do you know who He is? 6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. Ro 5:6-7 NASB I posted part of my testimony and my past struggles with sin for the glory of God. Many are still living with an outward appearance of Christianity, while living a life of covetous lust on the inside. 2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, 4 treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these. 2 Ti 3:2-5 NASB By Gods grace I no longer live in those sins that I shared with everyone. God has broke those chains and through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ I now live with Him, and He with me. I have no unconfessed sins, I do not look at porn, or any other type of material that will cause me to lust. I do not lust after other women in my mind. When I am tempted, God has in the past, and always will in the future give me a way out. God has given me a new heart and is transforming my mind on a daily basis. This is repentance, and I thank God for it, and walk in it daily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoodDay 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Amenbro, Two or three things. 1. If it's bothering you, shouldn't you take that up with God? 2. If it's bothering you, can it possibly be convicting you of something? 3. If it's bothering you, why is it that many others see Kevin truly following his calling and being obediant and wanting to help other? Lastly- It shouldn't "bother" another, what other Christians do in their walk unless it's sinning itself rather than helping others that fight with that same sin. If we need help with a sin, Molokans of today cannot help or do not know how, or do what ant to hear about it, but when we get help, talk about it, then help others, they want to say "dont do that or dont talk about it," ?? Ill never get that. So putting a conniving monk on a par with Christ is not Spiritual Adultery? I think you are going to be unpleasantly surprised at the answer to that question. You seem far more hurt by Kevin's acceptance of Christ, and more concerned with his not toeing the Molokan line than with his spiritual well being. Does this hit home for you? Are you jealous? Are you so deluded that you don't think Molokans sin? I know more than a couple who have been guilty of gambling, drinking, pre-marital sex, and so on. I think I know one who is guilty of harboring hatred for his brother. We all have sin and saying that your sin is less than that of your brother isn't really doing it. This discussion (if you can call it that) is not about what I think of Molokans....but yes, they sin just like everyone else. So what. What bothers me is when a so-called "brother" starts publicizing his being caught red handed by his own wife messing around with the ****** in front of his computer and using that as a pedestal for his new founded christianity. Why not simply preach Christ's redemption and quit making a darn mockery of it all. It's all just turnin into a hippie love in with all the trappings and trimming of Christ, but no real Christ. Where's the beef? ; ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinPolyaNazaroff 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Ok seekingthelies. Give up on the ###### spewing already. I'm only stating the obvious. Kevin has sexual hangups. I don't. You can claim all you want about someone you don't know. I can claim all I want about someone I do know. So please give your verbal assaults a rest already. I do hope that you will understand that my goal is to preach Christ and His victory that is available to all who turn to Him. He is the only hope for those who are caught up in a life of sin. You can state what you see as obvious all you want. I care very little about what you think of me personally. I do care about your eternal resting place. God is good and wants to draw all unto Himself. He is in the business of saving, and is looking for a few good men who will join His cause. My part is to point people His way. Point them to the cross. There, at His feet, you will find rest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinPolyaNazaroff 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 This discussion (if you can call it that) is not about what I think of Molokans....but yes, they sin just like everyone else. So what. What bothers me is when a so-called "brother" starts publicizing his being caught red handed by his own wife messing around with the ****** in front of his computer and using that as a pedestal for his new founded christianity. Why not simply preach Christ's redemption and quit making a darn mockery of it all. It's all just turnin into a hippie love in with all the trappings and trimming of Christ, but no real Christ. Where's the beef? ; ) This is not what happened, but the details are not what is important. What matters is that I was lost, but now I am a part of Gods family. I am very grateful for this. It is a God given reaction to share this with everyone I can. You know, to preach the good news, to sinners. 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our affliction so that we will be able to comfort those who are in any affliction with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. 2 Co 1:3-4 NASB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinPolyaNazaroff 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2010 We have bigger fish to fry...with spiritual adultery, and worshipping false gods. What do you think is more common, spiritual adultery, or sexual adultery? While pondering that question, it would be good to see what God says about it... Jesus said that just looking at a woman with lust in your heart is adultery. 28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Mt 5:28 NASB When was the last time you committed adultery? Ever looked at a woman and wanted her for yourself? What do you do when you see an immodestly dressed women? Or maybe you have never had lust in your heart. Just in case you have, Jesus gave the solution... 29 “If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 “If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell. Mt 5:29-30 Wow, Jesus is pretty radical. What do you think He means? Regardless of your answer to lust, I suspect you have experienced pride. It is even more common than lust. Or maybe you have never experience either lust or pride. If this is the case, you really need to post more often. Share some of you wisdom with the rest of us sinners. Here is a formal introduction to pride, just in case you guys never met... My name is Pride. I am a cheater. I cheat you of your God-given destiny... because you demand your own way. I cheat you of contentment... because you “deserve better than this.” I cheat you of knowledge... because you already know it all. I cheat you of healing... because you’re too full of me to forgive. I cheat you of holiness... because you refuse to admit when you’re wrong. I cheat you of vision... because you’d rather look in the mirror than out a window. I cheat you of genuine friendship... because nobody’s going to know the real you. I cheat you of love... because real romance demands sacrifice. I cheat you of greatness in heaven... because you refuse to wash another’s feet on earth. I cheat you of God’s glory... because I convince you to seek your own. My name is Pride. I am a cheater. You like me because you think I’m always looking out for you. Untrue. I’m looking to make a fool of you. God has so much for you, I admit, but don’t worry. If you stick with me, you’ll never know. Beth Moore Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinPolyaNazaroff 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2010 For Kevin to be swayed to and fro by opinions of those people who are just burnt out Molokans is ridiculous. This is happening to much. Hey Kev, why no make decisions a little more slowly instead of making rash decisions simply because you were caught with your pants down and are now embarrassed by that whole fiasco. Repent, instead of mocking. Sure, Molokans aren't perfect, but neither are you son. First, I would like to say that whoever it is that made these comments sounds like a fool. Not by my standards, but by biblical standards. 18 He who conceals hatred has lying lips, And he who spreads slander is a fool. Pr 10:18 NASB If I am wrong about this person, I will gladly repent. In fact, I would rather be wrong, and hear that this individual is in fact a believer. But, by these comments, I am led to believe he is currently separated from God. And if this person does not get right with God now, eternal consequences will be received. Secondly, I am not embarrassed at all about my past, my present, or my future. My past was a mess, and I was guilty of many sins. I deserved punishment. No ifs, ands or buts. I was guilty. But God is in the business of saving souls from the pit of hell, and for some reason, He decided to save me. Dirty filthy me. Jesus is more loving than I can ever convey. He paid my punishment. He bore my sins. He took my sins, my ugly filthy sins, and bore them. He paid the price. He took my punishment like it was His own! I was so unworthy. I did not deserve His grace. But I love Him for it. And I repented and I will continue to repent of any wrong way that is in me. So, Mr. Anonymous, I have already repented of my past sins. What more do you suggest that I do? If you weren't saying such foolish things, we would probably have a decent conversation. You are right, I myself am not perfect. I am far from perfect. And I don't expect molokans to be perfect. All I expect from molokans is to adhere to the bible. Not perfectly, just passionately. But as for me, I am in the process of becoming perfect. I am in the process of becoming holy. This process is called sanctification. Although this process is a life long process, I will continue to surrender myself fully into this sanctification process of the Lords. You seem to want to focus a lot on my past sins. I co-lead a class on Thursday nights for men struggling with various types of sexual sins. You are more than welcome to join us. It is an anonymous class, so you don't have to worry about anybody knowing. My cell number is 559-270-5437. Kevin Nazaroff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lastinline 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2010 Congratulations, His (Christ) allowing this refining fire from these gutter-snipes, makes your desire to serve, stronger and stronger as is evident in how you are responding to them. I can feel the pain myself, but it pales to what Christ did for those that desire to Follow Him and Him alone, whatever the consequences. His rewards are immense! “ Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.” To God be the Glory, lastinline Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites