Sitting Against The Wall

[lastinline 0]

lastinline...you do know that you are a hippicrite don't you? Worshiping in a place where the "devils" book sits on the alter of your church...and then saying to all that its "folly"

 

name='lastinline' date='Apr 1 2010, 08:45 AM' post='54069']

 

So the question for all of us to answer, what exactly am I personally persuaded by? TRUTH or folly?

 

lastinline (where only the SON is worshiped)

 

Yes, I continue to be persuaded!!

 

Romans 10: 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame." NKJV

 

Римлянам10: 10 потому что сердцем веруют к праведности, а устами исповедуют ко спасению. 11 Ибо Писание говорит: всякий, верующий в Него, не постыдится.

 

Yes, sometimes I do feel like a hypocrite, but definitely not a hippi--crite!!

 

lastinline (where HIS joy sustains in the darkest of places)

[Guest toolazytologin..]

lastinline...you do know that you are a hippicrite don't you? Worshiping in a place where the "devils" book sits on the alter of your church...and then saying to all that its "folly"

 

name='lastinline' date='Apr 1 2010, 08:45 AM' post='54069']

 

So the question for all of us to answer, what exactly am I personally persuaded by? TRUTH or folly?

 

lastinline (where only the SON is worshiped)

 

Yes, I continue to be persuaded!!

 

Romans 10: 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame." NKJV

 

Римлянам10: 10 потому что сердцем веруют к праведности, а устами исповедуют ко спасению. 11 Ибо Писание говорит: всякий, верующий в Него, не постыдится.

 

Yes, sometimes I do feel like a hypocrite, but definitely not a hippi--crite!!

 

lastinline (where HIS joy sustains in the darkest of places)

 

Now, if you go there and sit against the wall, pray to God that the light be shown, even to one person, and ask Him to show you who to pray for, and what to pray, and you do as He instructs, you are being obedient. It works for me.

[Guest guest]

Now, if you go there and sit against the wall, pray to God that the light be shown, even to one person, and ask Him to show you who to pray for, and what to pray, and you do as He instructs, you are being obedient. It works for me.

I though believers are supposed to be lead by the Holy Spirit PRIOR to sitting an hour or two in the bar, brothel, race track, book store, heretical church etc. Let your light shine from outside such places and not be a partaker of their evil works, I'm sure that's how Scripture words it. Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 1 Tim 5:22 Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure.

Lazy, your statement is unscriptural, and there are none that would validate your opinion.

 

 

 

[seeking_truth_1 0]

Why subject yourself to such a situation?

 

There is no spiritual value in attending a place that denies Jesus as Lord and the Bible as the inerrant Word of God

 

You could pray for them anywhere

 

By the way, attending does give the appearance of tacit approval to the goings on there

 

Lot lost his credibility by participating in the politics of Sodom

 

When it came time to leave, his family tought he was joking because of his active participation

 

I cannot agree with your position

 

Now, if you go there and sit against the wall, pray to God that the light be shown, even to one person, and ask Him to show you who to pray for, and what to pray, and you do as He instructs, you are being obedient. It works for me.

[GoodDay 0]

I was just gonna agree with Seeking and add something and then I read your post and you said something on the same lines of what I was thinking.

 

PRIOR, being the key word

 

Now, if you go there and sit against the wall, pray to God that the light be shown, even to one person, and ask Him to show you who to pray for, and what to pray, and you do as He instructs, you are being obedient. It works for me.

I though believers are supposed to be lead by the Holy Spirit PRIOR to sitting an hour or two in the bar, brothel, race track, book store, heretical church etc. Let your light shine from outside such places and not be a partaker of their evil works, I'm sure that's how Scripture words it. Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 1 Tim 5:22 Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure.

Lazy, your statement is unscriptural, and there are none that would validate your opinion.

 

[GoodDay 0]

I agree in great depths Seeking!

 

If someone is at a wedding or a funeral, sure I can see what lazy said as being the Truth as God wants this of His children always and everywhere.

 

If a person is arrogant of what is going on that is one thing, but when one knows and has been shown the Truth that does not lie in Molokanism of Today's worship and takes part in even the tiniest way ,is just a guilty before God as them that take part 100 percent.

 

If we watch a movie that has sin through-out it, and degrading humor and all the sins we know to stay away from, then we are acknowledging that it is OK and are giving it our approval.

 

Seeking gave the perfect example!

 

One can compromise to please man or Obey God.....

 

Why subject yourself to such a situation?

 

There is no spiritual value in attending a place that denies Jesus as Lord and the Bible as the inerrant Word of God

 

You could pray for them anywhere

 

By the way, attending does give the appearance to tacit approval to the goings on there

 

Lot lost his credibility by participating in the politics of Sodom

 

When it came time to leave, his family thought he was joking because of his active participation

 

I cannot agree with your position

 

Now, if you go there and sit against the wall, pray to God that the light be shown, even to one person, and ask Him to show you who to pray for, and what to pray, and you do as He instructs, you are being obedient. It works for me.

 

[Guest Guest]

Now, if you go there and sit against the wall, pray to God that the light be shown, even to one person, and ask Him to show you who to pray for, and what to pray, and you do as He instructs, you are being obedient. It works for me.

I though believers are supposed to be lead by the Holy Spirit PRIOR to sitting an hour or two in the bar, brothel, race track, book store, heretical church etc. Let your light shine from outside such places and not be a partaker of their evil works, I'm sure that's how Scripture words it. Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 1 Tim 5:22 Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure. Lazy, your statement is unscriptural, and there are none that would validate your opinion.

Lazy, Keeping these Scriptures in mind, are you really working for God or for yourself? Who is doing the leading? You are being fooled again thinking you are doing good, when in actuality you are playing right into satans hands, by attending you are giving your silent approval.

 

"Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you. I will be a Father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty." "Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil." "If you love me, you will obey what I command." 2 Cor 6:17-18, 1 Thess 5:21-22 and John 14:15-16

So Lazy get the dust off your sandals, this is where the rubber meets the road and..."Rosco, put the fat to the mat." quote Boss Hog, Dukes of Hazard.

 

 

[KevinPolyaNazaroff 0]

Now, if you go there and sit against the wall, pray to God that the light be shown, even to one person, and ask Him to show you who to pray for, and what to pray, and you do as He instructs, you are being obedient. It works for me.

I though believers are supposed to be lead by the Holy Spirit PRIOR to sitting an hour or two in the bar, brothel, race track, book store, heretical church etc. Let your light shine from outside such places and not be a partaker of their evil works, I'm sure that's how Scripture words it. Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 1 Tim 5:22 Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure.

Lazy, your statement is unscriptural, and there are none that would validate your opinion.

 

I do not know who "tolazytologin" is.

They may be a real person, or just somebody messing around.

 

But, I do find it a bit amusing that an anonymous guest is giving advice to this person in regards to their "church" situation.

 

There are a lot of cowards out there who speak boldly behind screen names.

 

 

 

I may be dealing with some difficult decisions, but I am open and up front about them...

the rest of you anonymous guests are nothing but cowards...

 

 

Kevin Nazaroff

 

 

[Guest Guest]

Now, if you go there and sit against the wall, pray to God that the light be shown, even to one person, and ask Him to show you who to pray for, and what to pray, and you do as He instructs, you are being obedient. It works for me.

I though believers are supposed to be lead by the Holy Spirit PRIOR to sitting an hour or two in the bar, brothel, race track, book store, heretical church etc. Let your light shine from outside such places and not be a partaker of their evil works, I'm sure that's how Scripture words it. Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 1 Tim 5:22 Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure.

Lazy, your statement is unscriptural, and there are none that would validate your opinion.

 

I do not know who "tolazytologin" is.

They may be a real person, or just somebody messing around.

 

But, I do find it a bit amusing that an anonymous guest is giving advice to this person in regards to their "church" situation.

 

There are a lot of cowards out there who speak boldly behind screen names.

 

 

 

I may be dealing with some difficult decisions, but I am open and up front about them...

the rest of you anonymous guests are nothing but cowards...

 

 

Kevin Nazaroff

The comforter is being sent through the Holy Scriptures and you find that a bit amusing! Obviously you came to this forum with the hopes of getting advise to ease your anguish. Kevin, exactly whose advise do you think is being given in the above post?

 

Knowing your name or remaining anonymous wouldn't change any "instruction in righteousness" now would it? Obviously you feel your personal disclosures are for spiritual healing, Jesus is your healer, through Him when asked in His name you have power over satan and the anguish that comes with bad choices. To consider the delivery of Gods words amusing is to show disrespect and denial. Trust the wisdom of Jesus not the opinions of man.

 

Walk your talk Kevin, or stay in your little farm church with their respect for multiple gods.

 

 

 

[Guest kevinsatuffguy]

Now, if you go there and sit against the wall, pray to God that the light be shown, even to one person, and ask Him to show you who to pray for, and what to pray, and you do as He instructs, you are being obedient. It works for me.

I though believers are supposed to be lead by the Holy Spirit PRIOR to sitting an hour or two in the bar, brothel, race track, book store, heretical church etc. Let your light shine from outside such places and not be a partaker of their evil works, I'm sure that's how Scripture words it. Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 1 Tim 5:22 Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure.

Lazy, your statement is unscriptural, and there are none that would validate your opinion.

 

I do not know who "tolazytologin" is.

They may be a real person, or just somebody messing around.

 

But, I do find it a bit amusing that an anonymous guest is giving advice to this person in regards to their "church" situation.

 

There are a lot of cowards out there who speak boldly behind screen names.

 

 

 

I may be dealing with some difficult decisions, but I am open and up front about them...

the rest of you anonymous guests are nothing but cowards...

 

 

Kevin Nazaroff

 

Wow....now Kevin is resorting to calling people names. Your true colors are starting to show Kevin. Keep up the good works that a false christ would be proud of. You have the spirit or a divisive demon in you Kevin. How does your wife sleep beside you at night knowing this...or are you still frolicking with other women at the midnight hour you hypocrite?

 

You are nothing but a heathen who now proclaims Jesus this and Jesus that, but the fruits of your work are nothing....all you do is post sermons from your favorite heathen false faith evangelist on facebook. That aint gonna save you Kevin ol boy.

 

[Guest toolazytologin]

Now, if you go there and sit against the wall, pray to God that the light be shown, even to one person, and ask Him to show you who to pray for, and what to pray, and you do as He instructs, you are being obedient. It works for me.

I though believers are supposed to be lead by the Holy Spirit PRIOR to sitting an hour or two in the bar, brothel, race track, book store, heretical church etc. Let your light shine from outside such places and not be a partaker of their evil works, I'm sure that's how Scripture words it. Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 1 Tim 5:22 Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure.

Lazy, your statement is unscriptural, and there are none that would validate your opinion.

 

I do not know who "tolazytologin" is.

They may be a real person, or just somebody messing around.

 

But, I do find it a bit amusing that an anonymous guest is giving advice to this person in regards to their "church" situation.

 

There are a lot of cowards out there who speak boldly behind screen names.

 

 

 

I may be dealing with some difficult decisions, but I am open and up front about them...

the rest of you anonymous guests are nothing but cowards...

 

 

Kevin Nazaroff

 

 

It was nice seeing you Sunday Kevin, hope all is well with the Baby and Mom.

It's funny all the stone throwers here. I wonder what would have happened if Apostle Paul took this advise in this board.

Where would all the Gentiles be????

[Guest toolazytologin]

Now, if you go there and sit against the wall, pray to God that the light be shown, even to one person, and ask Him to show you who to pray for, and what to pray, and you do as He instructs, you are being obedient. It works for me.

I though believers are supposed to be lead by the Holy Spirit PRIOR to sitting an hour or two in the bar, brothel, race track, book store, heretical church etc. Let your light shine from outside such places and not be a partaker of their evil works, I'm sure that's how Scripture words it. Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 1 Tim 5:22 Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure.

Lazy, your statement is unscriptural, and there are none that would validate your opinion.

 

Obedience is unscriptural?????

[Guest toolazytologin]

Why subject yourself to such a situation?

 

There is no spiritual value in attending a place that denies Jesus as Lord and the Bible as the inerrant Word of God

 

You could pray for them anywhere

 

By the way, attending does give the appearance of tacit approval to the goings on there

 

Lot lost his credibility by participating in the politics of Sodom

 

When it came time to leave, his family tought he was joking because of his active participation

 

I cannot agree with your position

 

Now, if you go there and sit against the wall, pray to God that the light be shown, even to one person, and ask Him to show you who to pray for, and what to pray, and you do as He instructs, you are being obedient. It works for me.

 

 

I have no problem of you not agreeing with my position.

 

[KevinPolyaNazaroff 0]

The comforter is being sent through the Holy Scriptures and you find that a bit amusing! Obviously you came to this forum with the hopes of getting advise to ease your anguish.

Advice to ease my anguish?

What anguish are you talking about?

Because I share the mercy God had on me (and continues to show me), that is anguish?

I am not sure what you mean.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kevin, exactly whose advise do you think is being given in the above post?

Yours when you said - Lazy, your statement is unscriptural, and there are none that would validate your opinion.

If you would have just given scripture, then I would have to agree with you.

But you did not just give scripture.

 

I can name a lot of verses where Jesus spent time with sinners.

 

I am not saying it is right for someone to just sit quietly in the corner of a cult and not say anything.

That person may be in a state of delusion.

 

I will generalize molokanism as a cult.

I will not generalize the individuals, especially when we don't know if God really did send them or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Knowing your name or remaining anonymous wouldn't change any "instruction in righteousness" now would it? Obviously you feel your personal disclosures are for spiritual healing, Jesus is your healer, through Him when asked in His name you have power over satan and the anguish that comes with bad choices. To consider the delivery of Gods words amusing is to show disrespect and denial. Trust the wisdom of Jesus not the opinions of man.

 

Walk your talk Kevin, or stay in your little farm church with their respect for multiple gods.

It does matter who you are if you want to discuss scriptures.

Are you a believer?

Are you an unbeliever trying to act like one?

If you have no fruit of a born again Christian, why would anybody take advice from you?

 

Or, are you just trying to dictate how somebody else should live their life, while your own is in shambles.

 

I will admit, that yes, these are assumptions.

But, you are more than welcome to clear them up, if you want to.

 

 

 

Kevin Nazaroff

 

 

 

 

[seeking_truth_1 0]

That's really not the point

 

Where is the spiritual benefit of regular attendance in such a place?

 

Perhaps you are not regularly attending but regardless can you point anyone who have lead to faith because of your involvement?

 

Who are you discipling?

 

Where is the fruit of regular attendance in such a place?

 

Are you called of the Lord to be there or are you fooling yourself?

 

You will not find active participation in a cult in the Bible as anything positive

 

 

Why subject yourself to such a situation?

 

There is no spiritual value in attending a place that denies Jesus as Lord and the Bible as the inerrant Word of God

 

You could pray for them anywhere

 

By the way, attending does give the appearance of tacit approval to the goings on there

 

Lot lost his credibility by participating in the politics of Sodom

 

When it came time to leave, his family tought he was joking because of his active participation

 

I cannot agree with your position

 

Now, if you go there and sit against the wall, pray to God that the light be shown, even to one person, and ask Him to show you who to pray for, and what to pray, and you do as He instructs, you are being obedient. It works for me.

 

 

I have no problem of you not agreeing with my position.

 

[KevinPolyaNazaroff 0]

Wow....now Kevin is resorting to calling people names. Your true colors are starting to show Kevin. Keep up the good works that a false christ would be proud of. You have the spirit or a divisive demon in you Kevin. How does your wife sleep beside you at night knowing this...or are you still frolicking with other women at the midnight hour you hypocrite?

 

You are nothing but a heathen who now proclaims Jesus this and Jesus that, but the fruits of your work are nothing....all you do is post sermons from your favorite heathen false faith evangelist on facebook. That aint gonna save you Kevin ol boy.

 

I am glad that my salvation does not depend on you or any other man.

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Ephesians 2: 8-10 KJV

 

 

Fellow Christian brothers and sisters have the right to question me and my walk with God.

Because out of love, we are concerned for each others eternal destination.

 

But you are not a Christian, so how can you determine what one is?

 

You can judge me if you want to, but by whose standards are you using?

It certainly is not the bible.

 

You mentioned fruit.

John said - 8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. Luke 3:8 KJV

 

These fruits are produced by God, and God alone.

One aspect of repentance is change.

I am a changed man, but you seem to be upset by this.

My wife and I have been married for over ten years, and are still happily married.

If it was not for the Lord, we would have ended up divorced.

But our marriage is holy and is pure.

We have a love for each other that has been put through the fire.

 

Do you have any fruits in your life?

If not, why.

Does it concern you that you are currently separated from God?

 

There is hope for lost sinners, and that hope is in a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

 

There is no other way.

Jesus is the only way.

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6 KJV

 

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. John 17:3 KJV

 

Do you know Him.

I mean really, intimately know Him?

Your future depends on Him.

 

Kevin Nazaroff

[Guest guest]

The comforter is being sent through the Holy Scriptures and you find that a bit amusing! Obviously you came to this forum with the hopes of getting advise to ease your anguish.

Advice to ease my anguish?

What anguish are you talking about?

Because I share the mercy God had on me (and continues to show me), that is anguish?

I am not sure what you mean.

You have publicly admitted your sexual perversion, and have criticized your church beliefs and elders, yet you choose to stay in bondage to your religion. Your lips say one thing and your feet say another.

 

A Christ touting hypocrite.

 

 

 

[KevinPolyaNazaroff 0]

You have publicly admitted your sexual perversion,

FORMER sexual perversion.

I have fully repented, and walk daily in this repentance toward God.

I have also aligned myself with other Christian men who keep me accountable.

I have no secrets.

My wife can ask me anything and I will openly share with her what is going on inside my heart.

But most importantly, I have surrendered my life to Jesus, and He is establishing an intimate relationship with me.

67 Before I was afflicted I went astray,

But now I keep Your word. Ps 119:67 NASB

 

 

 

 

 

 

and have criticized your church beliefs and elders,

Yes, this is true....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yet you choose to stay in bondage to your religion. Your lips say one thing and your feet say another.

This is also true, to a point.

I am still a member of Lake Ave.

Our family also attends Calvary Chapel Fresno (almost) every Tuesday evening.

I also attend another church on Wednesday and co-lead a book study on Thursday.

I do not know where I will be tomorrow, but I have left that up to God.

If He wants me in China tomorrow, I am there.

Africa, Colombia, Ethiopia, Turkey...

 

69 The arrogant have forged a lie against me;

With all my heart I will observe Your precepts. Ps 119:69 NASB

My response to your accusations is to seek the Lord.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A Christ touting hypocrite.

Christ touting, yes.

Hypocrite...?

I really hope that people do not look at me and think I am a hypocrite.

I accept the path that the Lord has set before me.

I would not have chose it, but I do accept it, both the good and bad.

 

71 It is good for me that I was afflicted,

That I may learn Your statutes. Ps 119:71 NASB

 

 

 

Kevin Nazaroff

[Guest omgwhatadudok]

So then, you are a hypocrite. You state that just about everything is wrong with the Molokan churches, admit that you attend Calvary, and still attend Molokan church to keep the ties with the Molokans. You are a hypocrite by your own words.

 

Also, no one hads lied about you. You are a sexual heathen. You know your sins. We know them. Quit scurrying around preaching this and that...stop mis leading others with your bible study class....and get your own house in order. You are clearly not quailified to preach nor teach others.

[seeking_truth_1 0]

Nice

 

It's always "refreshing" to see how cults exercise their conditional "love"

 

Do what "we" want and all will be well otherwise we'll drag you through the mud

 

Not just you but anyone associated with you

 

Paul was a murderer

David was an adulterer

Moses was a murderer

 

I guess our little cult member is "sin free"

 

According to Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"

 

I wonder if our little cult members understands God does not grade on a curve

 

Whatever Kevin was into is no better or worse than the sin in their life

 

There is only one unforgivable sin: "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.

(Matthew 12:31)

 

All others can be dealt with by the finished work on the Cross by Jesus

 

What I find disturbing is our proud little cult member is demanding Kevin stop a Bible Study

 

Really...?

 

That's the "solution"?

 

The ONE, the ONLY place where life can be found should be discontinued?

 

Again they are not dealing with the real issue of their own sin and the penalty that will be exacted from them apart from a saving knowledge of Jesus

 

Kevin is not preaching "this and that", he's preaching Christ crucified

 

22 For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom;

23 but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness,

24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. (1 Corinthians 1:22-24)

 

So which is it ?

 

Is the Gospel a stumbling block or foolishness to you?

 

Perhaps it's a little of both

 

[KevinPolyaNazaroff 0]

Also, no one hads lied about you. You are a sexual heathen. You know your sins. We know them. Quit scurrying around preaching this and that...stop mis leading others with your bible study class....and get your own house in order. You are clearly not quailified to preach nor teach others.

I suspect that you are struggling with unrepentant sins.

You have never experienced the freedom and victory that are in Jesus.

 

Turn to Him, and He will give you a new heart.

Your current one is evil.

9 “The heart is more deceitful than all else

And is desperately sick;

Who can understand it? Jeremiah 17:9 NASB

 

 

You are currently spending a lot of time swimming in the ocean of sin.

Is your current sin not satisfying you anymore?

Are you fishing for a better one?

19 He will again have compassion on us;

He will tread our iniquities under foot.

Yes, You will cast all their sins

Into the depths of the sea. Micah 7:9 NASB

You can keep bringing up my former life all you want.

I will never deny my past, and I do not hide from it.

But I have been forgiven, and my sins were cast in the depths of the sea.

Why are you spending so much time trying to find them again?

You can try to drag me through the mud all you want.

My relationship with Jesus does not depend on your opinion and assumptions.

 

 

 

 

Your only hope is in Jesus.

Go to the cross, and you will find forgiveness.

3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 1 Corinthians 15:3 NASB

 

Kevin Nazaroff

[Guest Guest]

There is only one unforgivable sin: "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. (Matthew 12:31)

Regarding Teacher Kevins failing to fully respond Biblicaly, to his farm church "New" doctrines, how would this verse apply in Kevins life? 2 Peter 2:21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. NKJV. That says unforgivable to me!

 

Kevin is not preaching "this and that", he's preaching Christ crucified

David Koresch and Rudometkin both preached their interpretation of the crucified Christ, are their not integrity Bible Standards set for those that minister the Word? Would you attend a bible class taught by David Koresch who also shot children. I think there's a lot more to Biblical qualifications for teachers of Gods word than you want us to believe.

 

If you want to run interference for Kevin that’s your choice, then you too are in the same denial of truth situation as Kevin, with his "never before heard by anyone" farm church polytheistic doctrines.

 

 

 

[lastinline 0]

It is amazing that a "new israelite" would be calling someone a hypocrite, when the very founder and leader of the new israelite's is the superman of heathen heretic perverts (mgr).

 

I have a suggestion for those who have intimate knowledge of hypocrites who are molokan leaders with ugly closet issues and now stand in judgment of others reveal just who are the hypocrites. Hopefully they will disregard the HIPPA law risks and try to find a way to reveal these people for all to see.

 

I believe that when these people realize that the very people that they disdain (Trinity Believers) would be the one's who gladly accept them to the world of Truth that comes from an intimate relationship with the God-Man, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, such as Kevin.

 

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So then, you are a hypocrite. You state that just about everything is wrong with the Molokan churches, admit that you attend Calvary, and still attend Molokan church to keep the ties with the Molokans. You are a hypocrite by your own words.

 

Also, no one hads lied about you. You are a sexual heathen. You know your sins. We know them. Quit scurrying around preaching this and that...stop mis leading others with your bible study class....and get your own house in order. You are clearly not quailified to preach nor teach others.

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But now I keep Your word.

 

I am still a member of Lake Ave.

Kevin, Scripture says you can't do both.

 

[Nick Shubin 0]

To the un repentent sinner, what Kevin is doing is offensive.

 

18 For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

 

 

[Guest guest]

To the un repentent sinner, what Kevin is doing is offensive.

And to the Believer too!

 

[seeking_truth_1 0]

What "new doctrines"?

 

What "polytheistic" doctrines?

 

One God - 3 "persons" - Father, Son & Holy Spirit

 

The Tri-hypostasis

 

It would appear Kevin is preaching what the Bible teaches as is indicated by his posts

 

Why introduce hyperbolic rhetoric into the dialog

 

Both koresh & rudomekin were waaay wrong and are non issues for the sake of this discussion

 

Again, as to qualifications for service, ALL have fallen short

 

The actual qualifications are in Scripture

 

Here are some

 

6 ¶ An elder must be well thought of for his good life. He must be faithful to his wife, and his children must be believers who are not wild or rebellious.

7 An elder must live a blameless life because he is God's minister. He must not be arrogant or quick–tempered; he must not be a heavy drinker, violent, or greedy for money.

8 He must enjoy having guests in his home and must love all that is good. He must live wisely and be fair. He must live a devout and disciplined life.

9 He must have a strong and steadfast belief in the trustworthy message he was taught; then he will be able to encourage others with right teaching and show those who oppose it where they are wrong. (Titus 1:6)

 

1 ¶ Dear brothers and sisters, not many of you should become teachers in the church, for we who teach will be judged by God with greater strictness.

2 We all make many mistakes, but those who control their tongues can also control themselves in every other way. (James 3:1-2)

 

It's not so much running interference but I have to say it's unfair you can take pot shots and hide while his life is an open book

 

Could your life stand the same scrutiny?

 

I figure what would it hurt to stand with someone going in the right direction as I would for others

 

Now the real question is, are your motivations pure or are you trying to tear someone down because they are free from the bondage of the the cult of molokanism?

 

 

There is only one unforgivable sin: "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. (Matthew 12:31)

Regarding Teacher Kevins failing to fully respond Biblicaly, to his farm church "New" doctrines, how would this verse apply in Kevins life? 2 Peter 2:21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. NKJV. That says unforgivable to me!

 

Kevin is not preaching "this and that", he's preaching Christ crucified

David Koresch and Rudometkin both preached their interpretation of the crucified Christ, are their not integrity Bible Standards set for those that minister the Word? Would you attend a bible class taught by David Koresch who also shot children. I think there's a lot more to Biblical qualifications for teachers of Gods word than you want us to believe.

 

If you want to run interference for Kevin that's your choice, then you too are in the same denial of truth situation as Kevin, with his "never before heard by anyone" farm church polytheistic doctrines.

 

[Nick Shubin 0]

To the un repentent sinner, what Kevin is doing is offensive.

And to the Believer too!

 

Steadfast, what do you believe in? Are you in any fellowship? Do you have Brothers and Sisters to turn to, or, are you all alone?

[LTTBT 0]

To the un repentent sinner, what Kevin is doing is offensive.

And to the Believer too!

 

Steadfast, what do you believe in? Are you in any fellowship? Do you have Brothers and Sisters to turn to, or, are you all alone?

 

 

We are sorry..............Steadfast is currently un-equally yolked at the moment and is unable to answer.

[seeking_truth_1 0]

 

OR

 

[KevinPolyaNazaroff 0]

To the un repentent sinner, what Kevin is doing is offensive.

And to the Believer too!

 

Steadfast, what do you believe in? Are you in any fellowship? Do you have Brothers and Sisters to turn to, or, are you all alone?

 

 

We are sorry..............Steadfast is currently un-equally yolked at the moment and is unable to answer.

 

If this was Steadfast, why is he not using his screen name?

 

K.N.

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Regarding Teacher Kevins failing to fully respond Biblicaly, to his farm church "New" doctrines, how would this verse apply in Kevins life? 2 Peter 2:21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. NKJV. That says unforgivable to me!

I am still a bit dizzy from this whole discussion.

Steadfast, if this is you, if you are out there, I would like to respond biblically.

 

It would be nice to know who I am talking to, and if I know it is you, I will respond with respect and continue the discussion.

But if it is some other "dudak" from the un-der ground, then I just can't guarantee a polite discussion.

 

Steadfast, I want to make it clear, I believe molokanism is a cult.

Not according to my standards, but by biblical standards.

You see hyprocricy in my life.

That may be true, but I am a work in progress, and I am always willing to discuss and dig deeper into these and other issues.

 

I do not encourage anyone to participate in molokanism, even though I still do attend.

 

 

 

 

In my original post, I thought it a bit odd that a "guest" hiding behind a screen name is calling "toolazy" to start the agonizing process of leaving a cult.

If you were being led to say something to "toolazy" in regards to his participation in a cult,

than I think that maybe I just stuck my nose where it did not belong.

 

It is my desire to walk "steadfast" in the Lord.

 

Kevin Nazaroff

 

 

 

 

 

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But now I keep Your word.

 

I am still a member of Lake Ave.

Kevin, Scripture says you can't do both.

 

NO, not remotely true and from my vantage point, not even possible!

 

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