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You stated I was spreading "heresy"

 

Please cite SPECIFIC instances where I did so and provide Biblical basis for your assertions

 

We're still waiting

 

 

Seeking. I could prove you wrong all day long, and I could be a poet, but your wouldn't know it, but the truth of the matter is you would simply deny iy all and we'd never get anywhere...just like we already don't.

 

What would the point be? I could begin all the way in Genesis and end up in Spirit and Life book and physically show you understandings of things you never would have though possible, and yet there they are, staring you in the face, and you'd still deny everything...EVEN WITH PROOF.

 

Discussing anything with you just seems like a waste of time. All you do is Jesus this, and Jesus that. You don't understand and don't want to understand.

 

Grow up.

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How embarrassing for you

 

You have said more than once you could "prove" your cult is Christianity yet not once have you provided a single shred of evidence

 

Making veiled references to say you have "proof" IS NOT proof, it's deception

 

The "I'd tell you but you wouldn't understand" seems to work on cult members because that is the EXACT nonsense the "elders" have been pulling for years

 

Ask a question about the s&l and get the exact same thing from your cult leaders

 

That is what all cults need to do because they CANNOT Biblically support the garbage they call a "christian religion"

 

So why not put down your pride and admit you have NOTHING?

 

OR

 

Please cite specific instances where I am spreading "heresy" and provide Biblical references to support your allegations

 

It would be "easy" for you to do, wouldn't it?

 

You've just admitted "you could prove" me "wrong all day long"

 

I invite you to do so

 

Perhaps that would cause me to tone down my "heresy"

 

As to "Jesus this", I'd say

 

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (John 1:1)

 

To "Jesus that", I'd say

 

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. (John 1:14)

 

 

You stated I was spreading "heresy"

 

Please cite SPECIFIC instances where I did so and provide Biblical basis for your assertions

 

We're still waiting

 

 

Seeking. I could prove you wrong all day long, and I could be a poet, but your wouldn't know it, but the truth of the matter is you would simply deny iy all and we'd never get anywhere...just like we already don't.

 

What would the point be? I could begin all the way in Genesis and end up in Spirit and Life book and physically show you understandings of things you never would have though possible, and yet there they are, staring you in the face, and you'd still deny everything...EVEN WITH PROOF.

 

Discussing anything with you just seems like a waste of time. All you do is Jesus this, and Jesus that. You don't understand and don't want to understand.

 

Grow up.

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All you do is Jesus this, and Jesus that. You don't understand and don't want to understand.

 

Grow up.

 

No, clearly YOU don't understand!

 

10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man is standing before you well. 11 This Jesus [1] is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. [2] 12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

 

For all we know you are some 14 year old kid that thinks it's funny to play this game. Or you are a middle aged person that has been so decieved, that they can't see past the deception. Either way, you are on dangerous ground. Do you really want to gamble your eternal life on a game, or deception?

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truehereticareyou' date='Apr 19 2010, 08:45 PM' post='56123'

 

Discussing anything with you just seems like a waste of time. All you do is Jesus this, and Jesus that. You don't understand and don't want to understand.

 

Grow up.

 

Categories of this type of person.

 

1. Under approximately 21 years of age. Just a arrogant, ignorant brat that is clearly dancing with the devil.

 

2. 21 to 35 years of age, in a sad state of dis-repair, with a garbage and garbage out mentality.

 

3. 35 to 50 years of age and married with children. Here is where it gets literally horrifying, that now the realty of satanic worship being given to another generation and dancing with devil, to be repeated again.

 

4. 50 plus years of age, now in this case, by making this statement we have a despicable human-being who without a transformation through the Blood of the Lamb, appears to be a person we were warned about, by our Lord-God, Jesus Christ; "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees."

 

lastinline (& with always plenty to say)

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"Jesus this and Jesus that"???? Are you out of your mind? Jesus Christ is OUR Savior, OUR Messiah, there is no other path to salvation, none. Do not be so careless with his name, instead introduce yourself to him, and ask that he introduce himself to you, he would love to meet you.

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"Jesus this and Jesus that"???? Are you out of your mind? Jesus Christ is OUR Savior, OUR Messiah, there is no other path to salvation, none. Do not be so careless with his name, instead introduce yourself to him, and ask that he introduce himself to you, he would love to meet you.

 

A kindly reminder to this wounded heart with no present desire to hear the beauty of His name, Oh Sweet Jesus, Lamb of God.

 

Mark 8: 38 For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him the Son of Man also will be ashamed when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.” NKJV

 

Please notice it says exactly the same thing in the preferred "new israelite" language. Huhhhh ?

 

Марка 8:38 Ибо кто постыдится Меня и Моих слов в роде сем прелюбодейном и грешном, того постыдится и Сын Человеческий, когда приидет в славе Отца Своего со святыми Ангелами.

 

When truehereticareyou states; "All you do is Jesus this, and Jesus that. You don't understand and don't want to understand."

 

Would he/she receive a similar rebuke from Our First Christian martyr, Apostle Stephen? After being accused of blasphemy against the law, he spoke about Israel's history and informed them (Jewish Council) of the Lordship of Oh Sweet Jesus, Lamb of God. He realized that they were not receiving this Jesus this and Jesus that stuff, so Stephen told them:

 

Acts 7: 51 “You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you. 52 Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who foretold the coming of the Just One, of whom you now have become the betrayers and murderers, 53 who have received the law by the direction of angels and have not kept it.” NKJV

 

Деяния Апостолов 7: 51 51 Жестоковыйные! люди с необрезанным сердцем и ушами! вы всегда противитесь Духу Святому, как отцы ваши, так и вы. 52 Кого из пророков не гнали отцы ваши? Они убили предвозвестивших пришествие Праведника, Которого предателями и убийцами сделались ныне вы, --

53 вы, которые приняли закон при служении Ангелов и не сохранили.

 

So then again, what was their response to all this Jesus this and Jesus, from Stephen:

 

Acts 7: 54 When they heard these things they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed at him with their teeth. NKJV

 

Деяния Апостолов 7: 54 Слушая сие, они рвались сердцами своими и скрежетали на него зубами.

 

So, am I being a little ridiculous in insinuating that this person (truehereticareyou) could react the same way, as these people, who the stoned Stephen to death for declaring Jesus Christ as LORD (GOD)? OK, maybe a little extreme, yes. But, they also didn't want hear from Stephen, about all this Jesus this and Jesus that stuff, You don't understand and don't want to understand." Sounds iriely similar.

 

I'm here just to give you the facts and you make the call.

 

lastinline (& anxious to meet Stephen in heaven)

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What does Matthew 18 have to do with a minimum number for the "true church"?

 

Also, seeing as you could prove me "wrong all day long", how about just for a few moments?

 

You stated I was spreading "heresy"

 

Please cite SPECIFIC instances where I did so and provide Biblical basis for your assertions

 

We're still waiting

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What does Matthew 18 have to do with a minimum number for the "true church"?

 

Also, seeing as you could prove me "wrong all day long", how about just for a few moments?

 

You stated I was spreading "heresy"

 

Please cite SPECIFIC instances where I did so and provide Biblical basis for your assertions

 

We're still waiting

 

Sadly, no desire to share their belief system to enrich others with their beliefs or have they simply changed the commandment of my Lord to the way their lord would say it:

 

Don't show openly your obvious hate to thy neighbor, so they will not know how much you detest them, so you will not have to call 911 for protection from them.

 

lastinline (where all neighbors are loved)

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Still waiting for an answer here too...

 

What does Matthew 18 have to do with a minimum number for the "true church"?

 

What is the ""true church"?

 

Also, seeing as you could prove me "wrong all day long", how about just for a few moments?

 

You stated I was spreading "heresy"

 

Please cite SPECIFIC instances where I did so and provide Biblical basis for your assertions

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'truehereticareyou' date='Apr 19 2010, 08:45 PM' post='56123'Discussing anything with you just seems like a waste of time. All you do is Jesus this, and Jesus that. You don't understand and don't want to understand.

Grow up.

 

Defense-less? Obviously yes, but let me remind you that forgiveness is available. Jesus Himself, said from the Cross, "forgive them Father, for they know what they are doing."

 

lastinline (& where HE is always available)

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Still awaiting a response as to specifically where was I "spreading heresy"

 

This is an all too familiar pattern

 

If you speak out against the cult of molokanism as an advocate for Biblical Christianity, you are "spreading heresy"

 

Adherents to the cult reject EVERYTHING outside the cult in ignorance as heresy yet they DO NOT nor CANNOT define the core tenants of Biblical Christianity because they DO NOT know their Bible.

 

Those are a couple more earmarks of a cult...

 

The vilification of anything outside the cult as "pagan, Easter bunny, ecumenical 666, nenash"

AND

keeping the people ignorant to The Truth as found in Scripture through direct control of information

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