Where does Righteousness come from?

[Guest guest]

Prayer is essential for the Christian

 

However, those who throw the word prayer around as non-Christians are wasting their time

 

There are repetitive "prayers" practiced within the cult of molokanism that are absolutely worthless

 

True prayer for the Christian is a conversation with God

 

And this is some kind of revelation coming from you?

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"And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words. (Matthew 6:7)

 

"Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much" (James 5:16)

 

Where does Righteousness come from?

[Guest truthhurts]

"And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words. (Matthew 6:7)

 

"Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much" (James 5:16)

 

Where does Righteousness come from?

 

You don't know? You should check out the bible some time.

 

For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness.

But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: "DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, 'WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?' (that is, to bring Christ down),

or 'WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead)."

But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"--that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

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You say "with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness"

 

Believes what?

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For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

This statement cannot sojourn with the mindset/belief of a devoted "new israelite." Yes or no?

 

Galations 3: 1 Oh, foolish [ MOLOKANS ] Galatians! Who has cast an evil spell on you? For the meaning of Jesus Christ’s death was made as clear to you as if you had seen a picture of his death on the cross. 2 Let me ask you this one question: Did you receive the Holy Spirit by obeying the law of Moses? Of course not! 3 How foolish can you be? NLT

 

Галатам 3: 1 О, несмысленные [ молокане ] Галаты! кто прельстил вас не покоряться истине, [вас], у которых перед глазами предначертан был Иисус Христос, [как] [бы] у вас распятый? 2 Сие только хочу знать от вас: через дела ли закона вы получили Духа, или через наставление в вере? 3 Так ли вы несмысленны,

 

lastinline (& keeping it, oh so simple)

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You say "with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness"

 

Believes what?

 

What is it you believe or do I have to add this to the list of mis-handlings, baseless accusations & contradictions?

 

You don't know? You should check out the bible some time.

 

For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness.

But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: "DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, 'WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?' (that is, to bring Christ down),

or 'WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead)."

But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"--that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

[Guest truthhurts]

You say "with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness"

 

Believes what?

 

What is it you believe or do I have to add this to the list of mis-handlings, baseless accusations & contradictions?

 

You don't know? You should check out the bible some time.

 

For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness.

But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: "DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, 'WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?' (that is, to bring Christ down),

or 'WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead)."

But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"--that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

 

Didn't you read the first line?

 

For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

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Believes what?

Believes what about Christ?

 

Muslims believe Jesus is a prophet

Mormon believe Jesus is Lucifers brother

 

Who is Jesus to you?

[Guest guest]

Believes what?

Believes what about Christ?

 

Muslims believe Jesus is a prophet

Mormon believe Jesus is Lucifers brother

 

Who is Jesus to you?

 

Beating a dead horse much....we all know that Jesus Christ is the answer for those who want salvation.

 

Be a nice Christian....for a change. Truth answered better than you guys do most of the time.

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You believe your entire righteous come from Jesus?

 

How can that be?

 

You say "Number two, Jesus is not God"

 

If that is your view then how can anything Jesus did be considered sufficient?

 

Scripture says

 

for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23)

 

If Jesus is not Deity then He is not sinless and therefore He is incapable of dealing with the sin debt of man

 

You believe your entire righteous come from Jesus?

 

Why is that?

 

Why do you then need to add works?

 

Isaiah 64:6 We are all infected and impure with sin. When we proudly display our righteous deeds, we find they are but filthy rags. Like autumn leaves, we wither and fall. And our sins, like the wind, sweep us away.

 

You say "Jesus Christ is the answer for those who want salvation" so why are there are no Mexican Christians, Asian Christian or Black Christian welcomed into molokanism?

 

28 There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male or female. For you are all Christians––you are one in Christ Jesus.

29 And now that you belong to Christ, you are the true children of Abraham. You are his heirs, and now all the promises God gave to him belong to you. (Galatians 3:28-29)

 

Your position doesn't make any sense to me when compared to Scripture

 

 

Believes what?

Believes what about Christ?

 

Muslims believe Jesus is a prophet

Mormon believe Jesus is Lucifers brother

 

Who is Jesus to you?

 

Beating a dead horse much....we all know that Jesus Christ is the answer for those who want salvation.

 

Be a nice Christian....for a change. Truth answered better than you guys do most of the time.

[lastinline 0]

Believes what?

Believes what about Christ?

 

Muslims believe Jesus is a prophet

Mormon believe Jesus is Lucifers brother

 

Who is Jesus to you?

 

Beating a dead horse much....we all know that Jesus Christ is the answer for those who want salvation.

 

Be a nice Christian....for a change. Truth answered better than you guys do most of the time.

A poignant question asked and the response can only be categorized merely as baby talk and/or sophistry.

 

lastinline (where baby talk was left behind, long ago)

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You believe your entire righteous come from Jesus?

 

How can that be?

 

You say "Number two, Jesus is not God"

 

If that is your view then how can anything Jesus did be considered sufficient?

 

Scripture says

 

for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23)

 

If Jesus is not Deity then He is not sinless and therefore He is incapable of dealing with the sin debt of man

 

You believe your entire righteous come from Jesus?

 

Why is that?

 

Why do you then need to add works?

 

Isaiah 64:6 We are all infected and impure with sin. When we proudly display our righteous deeds, we find they are but filthy rags. Like autumn leaves, we wither and fall. And our sins, like the wind, sweep us away.

 

You say "Jesus Christ is the answer for those who want salvation" so why are there are no Mexican Christians, Asian Christian or Black Christian welcomed into molokanism?

 

28 There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male or female. For you are all Christians––you are one in Christ Jesus.

29 And now that you belong to Christ, you are the true children of Abraham. You are his heirs, and now all the promises God gave to him belong to you. (Galatians 3:28-29)

 

Your position doesn't make any sense to me when compared to Scripture

 

 

Believes what?

Believes what about Christ?

 

Muslims believe Jesus is a prophet

Mormon believe Jesus is Lucifers brother

 

Who is Jesus to you?

 

Beating a dead horse much....we all know that Jesus Christ is the answer for those who want salvation.

 

Be a nice Christian....for a change. Truth answered better than you guys do most of the time.

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Still waiting for an answer to this one too...

 

I'll add it to your list of mis-handlings, baseless allegations and contradictions

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Much like our misguided friend from downunder, people believe "things" about Jesus just not the right "things"

 

Moreover, they cannot explain what it is they "believe"

 

It seems you should be able to explain what you believe and Scripture commands us to do so

 

You say "with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness"

 

Believes what?

 

What is it you believe or do I have to add this to the list of mis-handlings, baseless accusations & contradictions?

 

You don't know? You should check out the bible some time.

 

For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness.

But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: "DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, 'WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?' (that is, to bring Christ down),

or 'WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead)."

But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"--that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.