At A Recent Funeral

[seeking_truth_1 0]

At a recent funeral I was told (in advance) by a punk they were going to set me straight

 

I was there and they were there yet they seemed to lose their nerve

 

NO ONE had what it took to address me one on one

 

What happened to the bravado?

 

I was there out of respect for the family because I have LIBERTY to do so

 

Of course I don't regularly attend a CULT because there is no reason to

 

Scripture tells me not to

 

What's your excuse?

[LTTBT 0]

I was there too, out of respect for the family.

Saw you talking outside after the prayer, but I didn't want to interrupt.

Good to see you. I won't hold this sighting against you.....

[seeking_truth_1 0]

Thanks!

 

Sometimes you need to do things you don't agree with yet through it I was able to pray with a couple people who know the Truth and encourage them

 

 

 

I was there too, out of respect for the family.

Saw you talking outside after the prayer, but I didn't want to interrupt.

Good to see you. I won't hold this sighting against you.....

[LTTBT 0]

Sometimes we are sent to our Nineveh...........

[seeking_truth_1 0]

"Kicking" and "screaming" ;)

 

 

[Guest justaoldman]

"Kicking" and "screaming" ;)

DID YOU TAKE A SHOWER WHEN TO GOT HOME TO MAKE SURE YOU WHERE CLEAN !!!!!!! IS THIS CHRIST LIKE , TALKING ABOUT OTHERS. !!!! CAN'T YOU JUST GO AND DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AND JUST LEAVE!!! OR IF WE ARE SO WRONG JUST STAY HOME AND STAY CLEAN!!!!!!!!!

[seeking_truth_1 0]

I view attending a molokan cult service like going to any other cult service such as mormons, jw's or church of satan

 

There's no need for a ceremonial cleansing

 

It's a place a Christian should not regularly attend nor consider attendance being anything to do with a Christian Church

 

As to speaking about it, Christ called it like it was

 

Liar were liars

Deceivers were deceivers

Hellions were hellions

 

Nothing has changed 2000 plus years later

 

A false religious system still results in Hell for the participants

[Guest motheroftwo]

A false religious system still results in Hell for the participants

Full and part time participants.

 

[seeking_truth_1 0]

Are you saying I'm going to Hell for attending a single function?

[Guest motheroftwo]

Are you saying I'm going to Hell for attending a single function?

single?

 

[seeking_truth_1 0]

Yes single...Not weekly, monthly or yearly

 

Maybe a funeral a year

 

Didn't "go out"

 

Didn't "pray for the dead"

 

Actually walked out

 

Am I going to Hell for that?

 

Please provide Biblical basis for your opinion

[Guest motheroftwo]

Actually walked out

When you entered the church building as a small group, the group leader audibly prayed to the molokan god, and you stood silently in respect, thereby giving the appearance of unity with the church.

 

[seeking_truth_1 0]

You are making assumptions and are completely wrong

 

There were no prayers to the "molokan gods" certainly not from myself

 

Don't get me wrong the whole thing was a worthless exercise in a failed religion of men

 

It sickened me to think people subject themselves to that type of garbage on a regular basis

 

No freedom, no liberty just religious junk and worse

 

Certainly no unity either especially when I told the preacher (to the side) what God (from the Bible) thought of his actions

 

Jesus went to the Temple

Paul went to Mars Hill

Jonah went to Ninevah

 

They were not going to Church, but to do what was necessary

[Guest motheroftwo]

There were no prayers to the "molokan gods" certainly not from myself

They don't have the God of the Bible because they have chosen a different son, Matthew 10:32-33

32 "Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven.

33 But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.

NKJV Yes, you participated in praying to a false god, the molokan god, the only god they are left with.

 

 

[seeking_truth_1 0]

I agree they from a doctrinal standpoint (from the top down) they have a different Jesus and God

 

I still don't know why any Bible based Christian would still regularly or actively participate

 

I certainly didn't want to be there nor was there any Spiritual benefit from the failed religion of men

 

Your statement that I "participated in praying to a false god" is erroneous

 

I spoke about who Jesus is and made some people REAL uncomfortable

 

I didn't pray to a false god so how did I participate?

 

You've gone to a super market before?

 

Did they ever have Halloween or Easter bunny junk there

 

If we apply your logic, you participated in paganism and you're going to Hell

[Guest justaoldman]

I agree they from a doctrinal standpoint (from the top down) they have a different Jesus and God

 

I still don't know why any Bible based Christian would still regularly or actively participate

 

I certainly didn't want to be there nor was there any Spiritual benefit from the failed religion of men

 

Your statement that I "participated in praying to a false god" is erroneous

 

I spoke about who Jesus is and made some people REAL uncomfortable

 

I didn't pray to a false god so how did I participate?

 

You've gone to a super market before?

 

Did they ever have Halloween or Easter bunny junk there

 

If we apply your logic, you participated in paganism and you're going to Hell

 

[Guest motheroftwo]

I still don't know why any Bible based Christian would still regularly or actively participate

Unless they were Spirit lead to address the entire congregation, their would be no issue of accountability.

 

 

Your statement that I "participated in praying to a false god" is erroneous I didn't pray to a false god so how did I participate?

You participated by giving the appearance of unity, will Seeking go to hell for that? Two conditions have to be met first, only after having FULLY accepted these Truths

 

2 John 9-11 "Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house NOR GREET HIM; for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds." NKJV

 

"He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:18 NKJV

 

"For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins," Hebrews 10:26 NKJV,

 

and if you do not repent by changing your ways, after both conditions are meet, then one is accountable.

 

 

If we apply your logic, you participated in paganism and you're going to Hell.

I left the religion, and once I was fully convicted, I NEVER went back, not once, not even for family funerals, what if my family choose to belong to a satan worshiping church, then what? In God's eyes there is NO difference between a satanic church funeral and a molokan church funeral. "Let the dead burry the dead." I feel. I am not a public speaker, any prayers or encouragement could easily be arranged by God to take place off church premises.

 

When God says NO, does He mean MAYBE or SOMETIMES? Nahum 1:2 God is jealous, and the Lord avenges; The Lord avenges and is furious. The Lord will take vengeance on His adversaries, And He reserves wrath for His enemies; NKJV. And that hasn't changed.

 

Seek, let the dead burry the dead.

 

 

 

[seeking_truth_1 0]

So is Salvation by grace?

 

Can I lose my Salvation if I attend a molokan "church" once...? Twice...?

 

Don't get me wrong, I think the whole think is worthless and there's no good reason to regularly attend

[Guest justaoldman]

So is Salvation by grace?

 

Can I lose my Salvation if I attend a molokan "church" once...? Twice...?

 

Don't get me wrong, I think the whole think is worthless and there's no good reason to regularly attend

 

[Guest Guest]

So is Salvation by grace?

 

Can I lose my Salvation if I attend a molokan "church" once...? Twice...?

 

Don't get me wrong, I think the whole think is worthless and there's no good reason to regularly attend

Molokans have salvation choices Christians don't have, JUSTAOLDMAN, your Molokan choices are;

Molokan salvation through general works;

Spirit and Life page 271 verse 1, Furthermore my brothers and sisters, it is not faith alone that will save a man, but it is necessary to show works .

Spirit and Life page 615 verse 20 The body of the righteous soul at this time, because of its good works, will be transformed and sanctified in the image of his Creator.

 

Molokan salvation through specified works.

Through murder.

Spirit and Life page 593.8-9; "For all these lawless people and their children, God has assigned eternal death without resurrection, or according to that which is written, having no consolation. 9. And he who kills such as these will be made a saint by God, as was Phineas."

 

Through prayer, fasts, alms and truth along with the reading of the divine Word and wholeheartedly singing of songs of the Lord.

Spirit and Life page 741 prayer #13; Here let each one heed, do this well and willingly, for it is true that through such community prayers and fasts with offerings (works), God the father himself personally is generous towards all the dead. And likewise therein all the living shall receive salvation for it.

 

Spirit and Life page 146 verses 11 and 12; In which you will feel completely satiated, namely in prayers, fasts, alms and truth; along with the reading of the divine Word and wholeheartedly singing of songs of the Lord. 12 Such conduct will be admissible to the soul in the kingdom of the Lord- all others will be isolated to the devil and infinite torment! Amen

 

Through labor for the New Israel

Spirit and Life page 609 verse 11; And the gentiles, our workers for the millennium, will also settle all together straight in his holy camp and beloved city (formerly) ours because of their labors on our behalf.

 

 

 

 

Well you're too late JUSTAOLDMAN to ask about molokan salvation, Rudometkin says the Millennium has already begun, that would be about 160 years ago, however Davit Yesseyevich said the Great White Throne Judgment has concluded, which takes place after the Millennium, that reversed chronology is something you're going to have to sort out. It seems you have more choices to make about which beliefs you will uphold and who you worship!

 

Millennium has begun,

Spirit and Life page 420 verses 7-10; Just as it was with the Apostles; or as it was with me Your slave, King of Spirits [M.G.R.], midway through the nineteenth century. During it I was an instrument of the Spirit and truth, and the sign of the renewal of the resurrection of all the living and the dead. This today I await all the sooner. So that during my own days all the gracious and holy would arise first from the earth. And that the living like unto them would be renewed, and in their selfsame bodies reign manifestly together with me upon the earth for the full 1000 years.

 

Spirit and Life page 494 verses 5-7; For truly I [M.G.R.] lie not, but speak all of this according to the Spirit. Concerning this ecumenical spirit of the people shouts in agreement with me in every place. "Gracious is the passing nineteenth century!" During it the Lord God Almighty will Himself before our eyes execute His judgment upon the harlot and the beast who bears her. Then He will establish for us upon the land that which Adam and Eve once had in Paradise, and perhaps even better by a hundred-fold!

 

Spirit and Life page 693; "The King of Spirits now reigns for a thousand years with Christ. Amen.

 

Great White Throne Judgment has concluded.

Spirit and Life page 154 “Beloved contemporaries! I ask of you, for the sake of the merciful Lord Jesus Christ, consider what I have to say to you, that in your days and in your days of your children the judgment of God upon men will be completed.” –

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

justaoldman, how did you become saved?

[Guest Guest_GoodDay_*]

Seeking,

 

reading about this incident and your more recent posts, Molokanism of today seems to be bothering you more than it does the Molokans themselves. You seem to be more in bondage than they are?

 

If you go to a funeral, just go and be done with it. It will always be that way. Are you looking for an argument there, or are you looking for peace there? Either way, you would not be at peace. Also, there will be many more people that will walk up and be kind and loving regardless if they are lost in their Religion or not towards you and I am sure you experiances a bit of that.

 

Accept it for what it has become and move on or you will remain in bondage too or do something profitable about it-

 

Paul

 

 

[seeking_truth_1 0]

Huh?

Seeking,

 

reading about this incident and your more recent posts, Molokanism of today seems to be bothering you more than it does the Molokans themselves. You seem to be more in bondage than they are?

 

If you go to a funeral, just go and be done with it. It will always be that way. Are you looking for an argument there, or are you looking for peace there? Either way, you would not be at peace. Also, there will be many more people that will walk up and be kind and loving regardless if they are lost in their Religion or not towards you and I am sure you experiances a bit of that.

 

Accept it for what it has become and move on or you will remain in bondage too or do something profitable about it-

 

Paul

[Guest Paul Orloff]

Huh?

Seeking,

 

reading about this incident and your more recent posts, Molokanism of today seems to be bothering you more than it does the Molokans themselves. You seem to be more in bondage than they are?

 

If you go to a funeral, just go and be done with it. It will always be that way. Are you looking for an argument there, or are you looking for peace there? Either way, you would not be at peace. Also, there will be many more people that will walk up and be kind and loving regardless if they are lost in their Religion or not towards you and I am sure you experiances a bit of that.

 

Accept it for what it has become and move on or you will remain in bondage too or do something profitable about it-

 

Paul

 

Seeking,

 

Can you accept this challenge to show that you are still stuck in some eort of bondage;

 

If you can take 30 days off from this site then you are not in bondage. If you can, then lets see you go ahead and take that much needed break.

 

You say that "One" punk was going to set you straight, yet "no one" had what it took to come up to you fir a one-on-one? Has it ever occured to you that that probably will not happen and that they are are just continuing on in peace, yet you are the one you seems caught in this troubled life of speaking about them that you do not try to help?

 

Are you being Christian bout this? Are you handling your issues with Molokans of today in a Christian way? Is this how Jesus would be handling things?

 

Paul

[seeking_truth_1 0]

I said punk... yes I did

 

Those were their words about confronting me and setting me "straight"

 

I thought it was a punk like move to make threats of a confrontation especially at a family members funeral

 

I stand by the statement

 

Jesus identified the false religious leaders as

1) Hypocrites

2) Blind guides

3) Snakes

4) Sons of vipers

 

Should I have identified this individual as a snake instead?

 

I could have used coward... Perhaps that would have been a better choice

 

As to a taking a specific time away proving if I'm in "bondage" can you show me anywhere in Scripture where this is?

 

They have been helped by myself and others through the proclamation of Biblical Truth on this site

 

This coward didn't want the "help" and wanted a confrontation

 

That was their choice yet they didn't follow through

 

Jesus was gentle to the brokenhearted

Jesus torn into the false religious leaders

Jesus was compassionate to the hurting

Jesus was firm with the hardhearted

 

There is no peace in the cult of molokanism. How can there be when a different "gospel" is proclaimed

 

Having said that, there are real deal believers there (though I do not agree with active regular participation within the cult) who I did have a chance to pray with while not participating in the worthless "prayer for the dead" ceremony

 

If someone else I respected and I knew was in regular Church attendance told me something, I would give ear

 

Again, they would not lay down such a challenge publicly if I was really blowing it

 

They'd call me and say "hey bro, you might wish to rethink this or that"

[KevinPolyaNazaroff 0]

Seeking,

 

Can you accept this challenge to show that you are still stuck in some eort of bondage;

 

If you can take 30 days off from this site then you are not in bondage. If you can, then lets see you go ahead and take that much needed break.

 

This challenge is a strange one.

 

If seeking is using the gift God gave him to minister to those stuck in the bondage of religion, why would you think he is in bondage?

It is obvious to me that he has a desire to help point people to the Biblical Jesus.

Maybe there is more to his ministry then we are aware of.

16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

1 Corinthians 9:16 AV

 

 

I mean, sure, we all need a break now and then.

But if someone is really in bondage, they need more than 30 days.

 

 

If a religious pharisee took a break from religion for 30 days, would he cease to be a Pharisee?

If an alcoholic stopped drinking alcohol for 30 days, would he cease to be an alcoholic?

If a murderer stopped killing people for 30 days, would he cease to be a murderer?

If a porn addict took a break from porn for 30 days, will his addiction go away?

 

Behavior modification can only go so far.

 

Kevin Nazaroff

[Guest Paul Orloff]

Kevin,

 

What I am saying is that people get addicted to many things. If a person cannot walk away from something for good then a start would be to walk away or stop for a short period of time. I used to sit behind the computer for hours upon hours day after day on the MU and blast everyone that commented. The only thing that I was able to do was to literally not even use a computer to release me from that. Yes, it was an addiction and more so, bondage as IT had it's control over me, not me over it.

 

I mentioned to seeking that if this web-site does not have control over him, then take a 30 day challange and let it go as his posts are getting more and more negative. "challange" is not the best word but being this a computer it's fitting. A break, anything.

 

Seeking,

 

I am talking about the Molokans of today being more at peace then you as most of them just do what they do and are done. Regardless of how wrong some of it is, they feel they are right and have a false peace but it's still peace to them. You have left them along long long time ago, yet in a sense you are still looking back?

 

Is your goal to set them straight?

Is your goal to show what is false with in thier walls? I think that has been shown over and over and over and over and over again?

 

You seem to be stuck in a place (a safe place) (this forum) in chains. You are obviously not trying to do anything that will be profitable for them on here.

 

Either take turns visiting each church on Sunday's and have talks with them. Give them the full True Gospel until they tell you to leave or in-case they allow you to let them hear the Truth. Once you have done this, you can do no more. You can leave in peace or kick the sand off your feet, which ever one happens.

 

Perhaps it's time to start a new forum and leave the past behind?

 

Comes a time one needs to stop looking back. I still fail at times in that area. Bringing the same rhetoric up over and over is like carrying a 100 pound ball and chain around ones ankle.

 

You have a lot to offer-let the dead bury the dead.

 

And Kevin, yes 30 days away from something can help, and sometimes it can be the solution. Not all addictions are the same.

 

Paul

 

And Seeking,

 

Please don't bring out the errors in the Molokans of today in your resonse, as we allready know that

[jtolmachoff 0]

Seeking,

 

Can you accept this challenge to show that you are still stuck in some eort of bondage;

 

If you can take 30 days off from this site then you are not in bondage. If you can, then lets see you go ahead and take that much needed break.

 

This challenge is a strange one.

 

If seeking is using the gift God gave him to minister to those stuck in the bondage of religion, why would you think he is in bondage?

It is obvious to me that he has a desire to help point people to the Biblical Jesus.

Maybe there is more to his ministry then we are aware of.

16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

1 Corinthians 9:16 AV

 

 

I mean, sure, we all need a break now and then.

But if someone is really in bondage, they need more than 30 days.

 

 

If a religious pharisee took a break from religion for 30 days, would he cease to be a Pharisee?

If an alcoholic stopped drinking alcohol for 30 days, would he cease to be an alcoholic?

If a murderer stopped killing people for 30 days, would he cease to be a murderer?

If a porn addict took a break from porn for 30 days, will his addiction go away?

 

Behavior modification can only go so far.

 

Kevin Nazaroff

If a person has not committed himself or herself to following Jesus Christ than no amount of time away from their additction or religious affiliation will be of value. Because we are born into sin we are slaves to sin whether it be drinking, sexual, envying, murdering or even addicted to man made religious ordinances. Satan (the god of this world) will do his utmost to keep you in his grips and to keep you from committing or surrendering to Jesus Christ. A person committed to Jesus Christ and walking in the Spirit will certainly be blessed by what our Heavenly Father has in store for him or her. Our Heavenly Father may want us to go to a funeral or to an xtini or a wedding to be a LIGHT in a dark and pervers world. The sinners are not going to come to us to ask us about Jesus Christ, although that is not out of the question, God can do anything. It is up to us as deciples of Jesus Christ to obey His command and TAKE the Gospel to all the world, wherever it may be. We will be truly blessed if we obey Him. Jack Tolmachoff

[KevinPolyaNazaroff 0]

Seeking,

 

Can you accept this challenge to show that you are still stuck in some eort of bondage;

 

If you can take 30 days off from this site then you are not in bondage. If you can, then lets see you go ahead and take that much needed break.

 

This challenge is a strange one.

 

If seeking is using the gift God gave him to minister to those stuck in the bondage of religion, why would you think he is in bondage?

It is obvious to me that he has a desire to help point people to the Biblical Jesus.

Maybe there is more to his ministry then we are aware of.

16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

1 Corinthians 9:16 AV

 

 

I mean, sure, we all need a break now and then.

But if someone is really in bondage, they need more than 30 days.

 

 

If a religious pharisee took a break from religion for 30 days, would he cease to be a Pharisee?

If an alcoholic stopped drinking alcohol for 30 days, would he cease to be an alcoholic?

If a murderer stopped killing people for 30 days, would he cease to be a murderer?

If a porn addict took a break from porn for 30 days, will his addiction go away?

 

Behavior modification can only go so far.

 

Kevin Nazaroff

If a person has not committed himself or herself to following Jesus Christ than no amount of time away from their additction or religious affiliation will be of value. Because we are born into sin we are slaves to sin whether it be drinking, sexual, envying, murdering or even addicted to man made religious ordinances. Satan (the god of this world) will do his utmost to keep you in his grips and to keep you from committing or surrendering to Jesus Christ. A person committed to Jesus Christ and walking in the Spirit will certainly be blessed by what our Heavenly Father has in store for him or her. Our Heavenly Father may want us to go to a funeral or to an xtini or a wedding to be a LIGHT in a dark and pervers world. The sinners are not going to come to us to ask us about Jesus Christ, although that is not out of the question, God can do anything. It is up to us as deciples of Jesus Christ to obey His command and TAKE the Gospel to all the world, wherever it may be. We will be truly blessed if we obey Him. Jack Tolmachoff

Right on, Jack.

Agreed.

[seeking_truth_1 0]

Then it sounds like you have the problem, not I

 

I am not you so to place your problems upon me and say that I'm just like you is erroneous

 

How is it I'm the one with the "addiction" when a threat to cause disruption was made against me?

 

Do remember I was not the one who was going to "set things straight" it was from that coward

 

By the way, you did not cite ANY Biblical basis for your 30 day moratorium

 

I'm sorry I am not a pacifist at all costs like yourself

 

I do not agree with that nor do I see Scripture bearing that out

 

You view it as being "negative", I view it as being very direct especially with those who say they know better

 

The molokans that are "at peace" have consumed the Kool Aid to the dregs and are kindling for the fires of Hell

 

Should I not say that

 

Should I say, "well let's have chi and pishki and have a protracted dialog about it?"

 

I do not agree

 

17 But you, my dear friends, must remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ said.

18 They told you that in the last times there would be scoffers whose purpose in life is to satisfy their ungodly desires.

19 These people are the ones who are creating divisions among you. They follow their natural instincts because they do not have God's Spirit in them.

20 But you, dear friends, must build each other up in your most holy faith, pray in the power of the Holy Spirit,

21 and await the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will bring you eternal life. In this way, you will keep yourselves safe in God's love.

22 And you must show mercy to those whose faith is wavering.

23 Rescue others by snatching them from the flames of judgment. Show mercy to still others, but do so with great caution, hating the sins that contaminate their lives. (Jude 1:17-23 NLT)

 

You are not seeing the urgency with any degree of clarity

 

Until the errors change they will be continually brought up and contrasted against Scripture

 

It's unfortunate you do not like that

 

I recently had a dialog with a former member of the cult of molokanism who came to faith within the past couple years

 

I commented on how others accused me of being repetitive or "johnny one note"

 

My views as derived from Scripture that Molokanism is a CULT because they deny

 

1) Jesus is Deity as fully God and Fully Man

2) The Bible as the inerrant Word of God

3) Salvation is by Grace Alone

4) You need to Study the Word of God in a Bible teaching Church

5) You need to be in fellowship with like minded Believers

 

Yet the Bible affirms these very same things

 

The former cult of molokanism is now are doing as Scripture proclaims and are at True Peace for the first time in their life

 

My goal is to see people come to know the Truth and I am seeing that

 

It's a very slow "trench warfare-like" process

 

If you need a break then please take one

 

If you don't like what you are reading, then simply ignore me or move on

 

It is quite simple

 

I'll not continue to comment on your responses because they lack any objectivity or validity

 

 

Kevin,

 

What I am saying is that people get addicted to many things. If a person cannot walk away from something for good then a start would be to walk away or stop for a short period of time. I used to sit behind the computer for hours upon hours day after day on the MU and blast everyone that commented. The only thing that I was able to do was to literally not even use a computer to release me from that. Yes, it was an addiction and more so, bondage as IT had it's control over me, not me over it.

 

I mentioned to seeking that if this web-site does not have control over him, then take a 30 day challange and let it go as his posts are getting more and more negative. "challange" is not the best word but being this a computer it's fitting. A break, anything.

 

Seeking,

 

I am talking about the Molokans of today being more at peace then you as most of them just do what they do and are done. Regardless of how wrong some of it is, they feel they are right and have a false peace but it's still peace to them. You have left them along long long time ago, yet in a sense you are still looking back?

 

Is your goal to set them straight?

Is your goal to show what is false with in thier walls? I think that has been shown over and over and over and over and over again?

 

You seem to be stuck in a place (a safe place) (this forum) in chains. You are obviously not trying to do anything that will be profitable for them on here.

 

Either take turns visiting each church on Sunday's and have talks with them. Give them the full True Gospel until they tell you to leave or in-case they allow you to let them hear the Truth. Once you have done this, you can do no more. You can leave in peace or kick the sand off your feet, which ever one happens.

 

Perhaps it's time to start a new forum and leave the past behind?

 

Comes a time one needs to stop looking back. I still fail at times in that area. Bringing the same rhetoric up over and over is like carrying a 100 pound ball and chain around ones ankle.

 

You have a lot to offer-let the dead bury the dead.

 

And Kevin, yes 30 days away from something can help, and sometimes it can be the solution. Not all addictions are the same.

 

Paul

 

And Seeking,

 

Please don't bring out the errors in the Molokans of today in your resonse, as we allready know that