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Are You Worshipping A False Jesus?

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Guest Paul Orloff
"The prophecy of Christ is the true testament of Spirit and truth"

 

My Spirit tells me that the Jesus that is being taught here is false.

Your Spirit tells you that the Jesus not taught here is false.

 

My Spirit tells me that the Jesus that is being taught here is false.

Your Spirit tells you that the Jesus not taught here is false.

 

My Spirit tells me that the Jesus that is being taught here is false.

Your Spirit tells you that the Jesus not taught here is false.

 

My Spirit tells me that the Jesus that is being taught here is false.

Your Spirit tells you that the Jesus not taught here is false.

 

My Spirit tells me that the Jesus that is being taught here is false.

Your Spirit tells you that the Jesus not taught here is false.

 

Do you get my point? This can be never ending all you have to do is press the right (wrong) button.

 

Hi NAD,

I am not quite sure if I get your point?

What are you trying to say?

 

Have you had a chance to read any of the entries in this thread "things to think about"?

If you have, what are your thoughts?

 

Thanks!

 

 

Steve posted this in "what are watching" (I'm not sure how to bring them up in quote bubbles, so cut and paste, this will have to do for now)

 

Titus 3:4 "But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, 5 He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of His mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life."

 

It's up to Him!

"MIGHT"

 

The Jesus I understand is the one that came to judge and separate not put every one in one big pile.

In the 1700's, in Russia, when everyone that left the orthodox, why didn't they all stay in one big group?

Why where the virgins separated? Didn' they want the same thing?

 

"If you believe this you're going to get there." "If you don't believe this you're not going to get there."

Two sentences that say the same thing.

 

(Collective)If you think by going into the world and saving people is your calling, that is your choice don't drag others into it.

If they are called they will come and join you of their own accord. (end)

 

BY HIS mercy we are put on the right hand side of him. How much can we do to earn this?

We have no power to get there ourselves, all we can do is HOPE that how we have lived and conducted ourselves,

IS enough for Him to put us there.

 

I can imagine at judgement Him saying-

"I put you here and you went there"

"I gave you this to do, and you did that"

"I separated and you joined"

"I gave you prophets and leaders and you did not listen to My instructions"

And so on!

 

Are we so sure of ourselves that we are willing to climb out of the basket that HE put us in

and get into another?

What would he say/ask?

What would be our answer?

 

God gave us free wills but the Spirit guides our thoughts.

Some are guided by the true Spirit, others by the other one (MGR 1:4).

And both say they're doing Gods work.

So again-

 

"My Spirit tells me that the Jesus that is being taught here is false.

Your Spirit tells you that the Jesus not taught here is false."

 

Get my point now?

 

NAD.

Hey NAD,

 

I dont know if your on board here anymore but I just saw this- It makes sense now but not then due to a recent encounter with 2 religious Molokan older men.

 

While they sat and said sort of the same things you bring up and really did not even want to read about Grace etc.. thats clearly in The Bible on their Alter. They didn't want to hear about Jesus dying for our sins. Our sinfull hellbound nature we are stuck with that the Bible speaks of etc.. They said our Jesus or the other Jesus' out there are false and that Their Fore fathers were shown different. How is it that the whole bible speaks about God in His entirety and shows endless conversions (Saul/Paul) with out the Spirit and Life? Many Molokan elders dont even know who he is was etc.. They would lock him outside.

 

The Irony is one of the men, just says simply, we dont want our kids going other churches to bring in other teaches etc.. I asked this man and he has never even been to another church. How would he or you or anyone know what goes on there? Not just the Telly. But in the middle, he quotes some religious dude from the radio?

 

Why is it a man made sin to go to another church thats not ran by Molokans? BUT, then they will listen to the radio or talk with them that they say are hellbound (this man didnt say that) about thier cool little extra special faith that they can be no part of and then go to church and say they are hellbound again?>

 

You say we are worshipping a false Jesus? How so? I will speak for myself and not say your worshipping a false jesus. There is one Jesus. He is in the Bible. Any Bible. Worshipping anything other than that Jesus is not a false one, its just not Jesus.

 

 

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