IvanTheDonut
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The Molokans (Russian: МолокаÌне) are a "Biblically-centered" sectarian religious movement, among Russian peasants (serfs), who broke away from the Russian Orthodox Church in the 1550s. Molokans denied the Czar's divine right to rule and rejected icons, Orthodox fasts, military service, the eating of unclean foods, and other practices, including water baptism. They also rejected the traditional beliefs (held by Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox Christians) in the Trinity, the veneration of religious icons, worship in cathedrals, the adherence toward saintly holidays, and the decisions of Synods and Ecumenical Councils.
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All I can say is that you're all a buch of hyocrites. None of you ever accomplish a single thing except to edge the other person on. Round and round you go to where...nobody knows.
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All I can say about this "what is a Christian" thread is this...If you guys posing as true Christians really are true Christians, then God must have been wrong when He stated that very few people would attain their salvation. I personally feel that you are in the category of 666 false christianity (stead, espresso...I mean coffee and a few others) with all your Jesus is God gibberish. Millions if not billions of moronic nutcases...I mean people around the world believe just as you do, and they are wrong too, so I guess you'll all be outside of Noah's Ark pounding on the door to be let in, but it'll be to late. You should know the story. I learned it before I was 5.
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How Can You Have A Conversation On Faith With Someone Who Doesn't
IvanTheDonut replied to IvanTheDonut's topic in Faith
1) faith in the one true living God above 2)those that don't worship the one true living God above in the Spirit of Truth 3)the one true living God above Why is this so difficult for you poops and others to understand? It isn't rocket science. If you had read the entire post you'd understand one would think. Itd, i guess it would be easier to have a conversation with you if you would drop the attitude! I'm not steadfast, i don't agree with his antics, nor do i agree with his point of view. So, could we drop the superiority complex, and reason together? Hi poops, I'm sorry it came out as an attitude on my part. It wasn't meant to come across that way. Rather, I meant only to convey an incredulity as to why it was so difficult for others to understand my point of view. I'm not weird, but I apparently do have a different understanding of the scripture that steadfruit and others do not comprehend and instead ridicule others for. So if you want to have a dialogue poops, I will be fair with you and try to be more soft spoken....or rather written. -
How Can You Have A Conversation On Faith With Someone Who Doesn't
IvanTheDonut replied to IvanTheDonut's topic in Faith
1) faith in the one true living God above 2)those that don't worship the one true living God above in the Spirit of Truth 3)the one true living God above Why is this so difficult for you poops and others to understand? It isn't rocket science. If you had read the entire post you'd understand one would think. -
How Can You Have A Conversation On Faith With Someone Who Doesn't
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Topic title says it all. How can you converse with someone about faith when that person does not have any? If they do not have faith, what makes them an expert on other topics such as Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit? How can one have any knowledge or understanding of scripture if spiritual wisdom has not been given to them? If one's heart is not accepting of the Holy Spirit, of prophecy or of the inspiring living Word of the one true God above, how can they think that they will receive their salvation? The bible says that we must accept all of these things willingly and to believe in the Son of God Whom is Jesus Christ, and to believe in Him who HE sends to us. This could be a prophet, or an ordinary person who has something to share with us regarding salvation and scripture. How can anyone of you non believers claim to believe in the one true God if you cannot even accept His Son Jesus Christ? -
You implicate yourself each and every time you try to sound scripturally "au courant." I have not read one single passage that you have quoted or ....should I say "misquoted" from where you didn't sound like the target for what was being said. Remember that it isn't a deity of Jesus as you have claimed, but a deity of 666 false faiths around the world. We are to worship in the deity of the One True Living God Above through His Son Jesus Christ whom couldn't be His Son unless God were His Father, which would further along the evidence of God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit being seperate and individual beings...yet synonymous with each other through the same beliefs and acceptance of the rights of the Father...Whom created all things. You my friend, keep getting buried deeper and deeper in your own steaming pot of lapsha. Time to change for the better and quit pandering to false christianity with your ludicrous claims which translate into something far different than that which God above envisioned when He created MAN in His image. Tsk tsk tsk.
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I know I've been sounding a bit on the defensive side lately, but I'm dealing with nitwits. How can you say all that stuff about contextual scripture. I've seen fourvetta and myself quoting contextual scripture to you and your cronies or other registered user id's...not sure which yet, yet you either ignore the scripture posted for you or flat out deny that the scripture pertains to the subject at hand at the time. That seems to be the typical response from you and your buddies. How come you never accept it when someone replies to you with contextual scripture? We post good answers for you and all you do is change the subject or post old generic posts from 6 months back. I can go on and on here, but all it does is to serve your purpose of getting everyone angry. You aren't "reconciling anyone with God." All you are doing is stirring the pot for Satan. You're doing Satan a favor, and that's all your doing. I'm not judging you unto your salvation, because that is between you and the True Living God Above, but I can say what I see, and it aint all good. Shape up and quit living a lie. Read the good Book with an open mind, because at the present time, you are headed down the track over a bridge with a high speed train coming straight at you......so to speak.
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Speaking about blasphemy, you and Fourvetta never answered Seeking's and my question. You don't believe Jesus is God and yet claim He is your savior. How will you attain salvation if Jesus is not God, which is something only God can do? Fourvetta didn't have an answer so he used verses that were taken out of context. The same verses Fourvetta calls the written word, which he says is dead and has no need for. I'm sure fourvetta will reply to this post with more out of context mumbo, I think he lacks self control and is actually being controlled. I will not answer to you regarding my salvation, but I can say that I believe Jesus is the Son of God. That gets me a better chance than you. You're wacky.
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This stuff borders on blasphemy. Why would you make fun of others? That isn't a Christian attribute.
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You guys are really weird. Do you believe in aliens as well? :64:
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Again, according to the good book (dictionary) the trinity of God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, are defined as three completely seperate beings being of one mindset. I guess the author of the dictionary doesn't agree with you.
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So let me get this straight. You are saying that Jesus and God the Father are 2 seperate beings and that they were speaking to each other. How could that be if Jesus is God? Wouldn't that mean Jesus was talking to Himself? Again...seeking, you still seem to be stumbling over your own words. In one sentence Jesus is God, and the next Jesus and God His Father are having dialogue with each other. Make up your mind please. Stick to one bible.
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What do you mean by "nuff said?" You don't pose a challenge to my faith. "Au contraire." All you have accomplished is to try and get out of answering for your beliefs. Why do you act that way when you are cornered? I do reiterate that your jesus is made up in your head and is not biblical based upon what you have told us thus far. You do not worship in the Spirit of Truth, because if you did, you wouldn't always try to take the low road and insult others just because you lack an appropriate answer when they ask you something. I really dislike this kind of conversation, but when you act like a child throwing a tantrum, it's difficult to have proper dialogue. I answered your question (s), and you haven't answered mine. How say you?
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That's a really dumb way to admit that you don't have an answer to my question of was Jesus talking to Himself on the cross. Why don't you quit pandering to the false Christianity and wake up. The question was...Was Jesus talking to Himself on the cross when he called out to God? You have a chance to redeem yourself in front of all the people reading these posts. Go ahead...you'll feel better after.
