Rapture

[Guest fourvetta]

Here's your soap box, seeking and anonymous.

[Guest fourvetta]

Here's a starting point.

 

Quote seeking.

 

II) The Rapture or from the Greek "Harpazo" as referenced in

1Thesselonians 4:17.

Once this occurs the prophetic click begins to tick again for the

last 7 years of world history. Having first the 69 weeks, a pause

during the Church Age (the time since Christ until the rapture -

where we are right now) and then the 70th week

 

III) The 2 witnesses as referenced in Revelation 11:3 They will be on

the scene during the last 7 years of world history or the 70th week

of *****. The Church will have been removed or raptured during this

time and not in judgement on the Earth

 

IV) The Second Coming of Christ as referenced in Rev 19

 

 

Now to discuss further when The Church aka His Bride are located

during this time.

[anonymous 0]

Here's your soap box, seeking and anonymous.

fourvetta,

 

In all honesty and no offense intended, it is difficult to carry on a serious, interactive discussion with you because of your dishonesty, flightiness, immaturity, irresponsibility, superficiality, and unaccountability with respect to GOD'S WORD, THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, and your NON-sense apart from quoting THEM, and at that, your managing to MISappropriate THEM when presented.

 

We continue to ask that GOD'S WILL be done with you and your brethren......

[seeking_truth_1 0]

How can anyone have a discussion about finer points of doctrine when forvetta doesn't have the basics

 

It would be similar to have a discussion about calculus with someone who can't grasp the concept of 2 + 2

 

""Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier [matters] of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone." (Mt 23:23 NKJV)

 

""Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness." (Mt 23:28 NKJV)

 

Here they the questions I posed to forvetta

 

1) Who is Jesus? Is He a man or God in physical form?

2) How do you, forvetta get to Heaven? By being molokan or by accepting the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross?

3) Can your non molokan neighbor get to Heaven? If so, how?

 

Is Maxcim subject to Christ?

Is Maxcim equal to Christ?

 

Who is Jesus? Is He a man? - forvetta's belief - NO

(Is He) God in physical form? - forvetta's belief - NO

 

How do you, forvetta get to Heaven? By being molokan...? - forvetta's belief - NO

OR

(How do you, forvetta get to Heaven?) by accepting the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross? - forvetta's belief - NO

 

Can you non molokan neighbor get to Heaven? - forvetta's belief - NO

 

Is Maxcim subject to Christ? - forvetta's belief - NO

Is Maxcim equal to Christ? - forvetta's belief “ NO

 

What we can draw from this is that forvetta believes:

 

Jesus is more than a man but not God in physical form

The pro-MGR group are the "true" believers and are superior to "regular" molokans

Salvaton by acceptance of Jesus` sacrifice on the Cross only is insufficient

Forvetta`s non-molokan neighbors won`t make it to Heaven

 

Finally

If maxcim is not subject to Christ

and

maxcim is not equal to Christ

 

Therefore forvetta believes maxcim is greater than Christ

 

 

I'm in agreement with anonymous

 

We continue to ask that GOD'S WILL be done with you and your brethren......

 

Frankly, my prayer is for the places the teach pro-mgr/Anti-Christ doctrine would no longer be allowed to exist

 

We see that beginning to occur especially within Clark Street

 

Dissentions and exodus seem to be the order of the day and I hope it's continues until no one is left to continue the lies

[Guest fourvetta]

Quote seeking

 

II) The Rapture or from the Greek "Harpazo" as referenced in

1Thesselonians 4:17.

Once this occurs the prophetic click begins to tick again for the

last 7 years of world history. Having first the 69 weeks, a pause

during the Church Age (the time since Christ until the rapture -

where we are right now) and then the 70th week

 

Seeking says here, that the seventy weeks began from the time of Christ to time of the rapture.

 

The scripture says otherwise.

 

Lets start.

 

*****

 

9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

 

9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

 

9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

 

9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate

 

 

 

Now reading from Jeremiah the Prophet, we see he says by the Spirit something other than what seeking along with the rest of the christian world believes.

 

Jeremiah

 

25:8 Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts; Because ye have not heard my words,

 

25:9 Behold, I will send and take all the families of the north, saith the LORD, and Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and will bring them against this land, and against the inhabitants thereof, and against all these nations round about, and will utterly destroy them, and make them an astonishment, and an hissing, and perpetual desolations.

 

25:10 Moreover I will take from them the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride, the sound of the millstones, and the light of the candle.

 

25:11 And this whole land shall be a desolation, and an astonishment; and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.

 

25:12 And it shall come to pass, when seventy years are accomplished, that I will punish the king of Babylon, and that nation, saith the LORD, for their iniquity, and the land of the Chaldeans, and will make it perpetual desolations.

 

25:13 And I will bring upon that land all my words which I have pronounced against it, even all that is written in this book, which Jeremiah hath prophesied against all the nations

 

 

 

Notice the words, "after the seventy weeks are complete I will punish the king of Babylon."

[Guest fourvetta]

To prove that the seventy weeks are fulfilled already, the following is from the Apocrypha. Of course there will be comments, but never the less, there is great historical value within it.

 

This fulfills the prophesy of Jeremiah 25: 8-13

 

1 Esdras

 

50 Nevertheless the God of their fathers sent by his messenger to call them back, because he spared them and his tabernacle also.

 

51 But they had his messengers in derision; and, look, when the Lord spake unto them, they made a sport of his prophets:

 

52 So far forth, that he, being wroth with his people for their great ungodliness, commanded the kings of the Chaldees to come up against them;

 

53 Who slew their young men with the sword, yea, even within the compass of their holy temple, and spared neither young man nor maid, old man nor child, among them; for he delivered all into their hands.

 

54 And they took all the holy vessels of the Lord, both great and small, with the vessels of the ark of God, and the king`s treasures, and carried them away into Babylon.

 

55 As for the house of the Lord, they burnt it, and brake down the walls of Jerusalem, and set fire upon her towers:

 

56 And as for her glorious things, they never ceased till they had consumed and brought them all to nought: and the people that were not slain with the sword he carried unto Babylon:

 

57 Who became servants to him and his children, till the Persians reigned, to fulfil the word of the Lord spoken by the mouth of Jeremy:

 

58 Until the land had enjoyed her sabbaths, the whole time of her desolation shall she rest, until the full term of seventy years.

 

 

 

The following fulfills the Prophesy of ***** in chapter 9: 25

 

9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

 

 

1 Esdras Chapter 2

 

1 In the first year of Cyrus king of the Persians, that the word of the Lord might be accomplished, that he had promised by the mouth of Jeremy;

 

2 The Lord raised up the spirit of Cyrus the king of the Persians, and he made proclamation through all his kingdom, and also by writing,

 

3 Saying, Thus saith Cyrus king of the Persians; The Lord of Israel, the most high Lord, hath made me king of the whole world,

 

4 And commanded me to build him an house at Jerusalem in Jewry.

 

5 If therefore there be any of you that are of his people, let the Lord, even his Lord, be with him, and let him go up to Jerusalem that is in Judea, and build the house of the Lord of Israel: for he is the Lord that dwelleth in Jerusalem.

 

6 Whosoever then dwell in the places about, let them help him, (those, I say, that are his neighbours,) with gold, and with silver,

 

7 With gifts, with horses, and with cattle, and other things, which have been set forth by vow, for the temple of the Lord at Jerusalem

 

 

 

The following fulfills ***** 9:26

 

And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:

 

25 Then the king wrote back again to Rathumus the storywriter, to Beeltethmus, to Semellius the scribe, and to the rest that were in commission, and dwellers in Samaria and Syria and Phenice, after this manner;

 

26 I have read the epistle which ye have sent unto me: therefore I commanded to make diligent search, and it hath been found that that city was from the beginning practising against kings;

27 And the men therein were given to rebellion and war: and that mighty kings and fierce were in Jerusalem, who reigned and exacted tributes in Celosyria and Phenice.

28 Now therefore I have commanded to hinder those men from building the city, and heed to be taken that there be no more done in it;

29 And that those wicked workers proceed no further to the annoyance of kings,

 

30 Then king Artexerxes his letters being read, Rathumus, and Semellius the scribe, and the rest that were in commission with them, removing in haste toward Jerusalem with a troop of horsemen and a multitude of people in battle array, began to hinder the builders; and the building of the temple in Jerusalem ceased until the second year of the reign of Darius king of the Persians.

 

Seekings quote:

 

Once this occurs the prophetic click begins to tick again for the

last 7 years of world history. Having first the 69 weeks, a pause

during the Church Age (the time since Christ until the rapture -

where we are right now) and then the 70th week

 

It was actually a pause in the building of the Temple in Jerusalem.

[seeking_truth_1 0]

You cannot comprehend basics like 1 + 1 = 2 or the Cross + Christ = Salvation yet want to take people down more rabbit trails

 

Making a bunch of noise, but when it's all over, that's all it was... noise

 

Why continue?

 

With your statement of faith as it is, I think you have bigger problems to resolve than finer doctrinal points

 

Remember?

 

Who is Jesus? Is He a man? - forvetta's belief - NO

(Is He) God in physical form? - forvetta's belief - NO

 

How do you, forvetta get to Heaven? By being molokan...? - forvetta's belief - NO

OR

(How do you, forvetta get to Heaven?) by accepting the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross? - forvetta's belief - NO

 

Can you non molokan neighbor get to Heaven? - forvetta's belief - NO

 

Is maxim subject to Christ? - forvetta's belief - NO

Is maxim equal to Christ? - forvetta's belief “ NO

 

What we can draw from this is that forvetta believes:

 

Jesus is more than a man but not God in physical form

The pro-MGR group are the "true" believers and are superior to "regular" molokans

Salvation by acceptance of Jesus` sacrifice on the Cross only is insufficient

Forvetta`s non-molokan neighbors won`t make it to Heaven

 

Finally

If maxim is not subject to Christ

and

maxim is not equal to Christ

 

Therefore forvetta believes maxim is greater than Christ

[Prophet 0]

Thank you fourvetta,

 

Your commentary concerning the seventy weeks was very interesting and I will have to re-read the references and see if I can come to a conclusion.

 

The water baptizing types here tend too read too many commentaries, such as Steadfasts recommendations to read of 5 or 6. This is the reason we get many interpretations and ultimately, confusion.

 

Your meek and gentle responses show who you really follow. An example for all to follow.

[Guest fourvetta]

Thank you Prophet. I like your advise about not answering a fool according to his/her folly.

 

Here is a link to the Apocrypha. If one does not consider it as scripture, he cannot deny the historical content.

 

http://ebible.org/bible/kjv/

 

 

It would be better to read the whole account of the building of the Temple in Jerusalem 1 Esdras.

 

4:42 Then said the king unto Zerubbabel, Ask what thou wilt more than is appointed in the writing, and we will give it thee, because thou art found wisest; and thou shalt sit next me, and shalt be called my cousin.

 

(Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest were prophesied by the Prophet Haggai as being the ones who would build the Temple in Jerusalem)

 

4:43 Then said he unto the king, Remember thy vow, which thou hast vowed to build Jerusalem, in the day when thou camest to thy kingdom,

 

4:44 And to send away all the vessels that were taken away out of Jerusalem, which Cyrus set apart, when he vowed to destroy Babylon, and to send them again thither.

 

4:45 Thou also hast vowed to build up the temple, which the Edomites burned when Judea was made desolate by the Chaldees.

 

4:46 And now, O lord the king, this is that which I require, and which I desire of thee, and this is the princely liberality proceeding from thyself: I desire therefore that thou make good the vow, the performance whereof with thine own mouth thou hast vowed to the King of heaven.

 

4:47 Then Darius the king stood up, and kissed him, and wrote letters for him unto all the treasurers and lieutenants and captains and governors, that they should safely convey on their way both him, and all those that go up with him to build Jerusalem.

 

4:48 He wrote letters also unto the lieutenants that were in Celosyria and Phenice, and unto them in Libanus, that they should bring cedar wood from Libanus unto Jerusalem, and that they should build the city with him.

 

4:49 Moreover he wrote for all the Jews that went out of his realm up into Jewry, concerning their freedom, that no officer, no ruler, no lieutenant, nor treasurer, should forcibly enter into their doors;

 

4:50 And that all the country which they hold should be free without tribute; and that the Edomites should give over the villages of the Jews which then they held:

 

4:51 Yea, that there should be yearly given twenty talents to the building of the temple, until the time that it were built;

 

4:52 And other ten talents yearly, to maintain the burnt offerings upon the altar every day, as they had a commandment to offer seventeen:

 

4:53 And that all they that went from Babylon to build the city should have free liberty, as well they as their posterity, and all the priests that went away.

 

4:54 He wrote also concerning. the charges, and the priests` vestments wherein they minister;

 

4:55 And likewise for the charges of the Levites, to be given them until the day that the house were finished, and Jerusalem builded up.

 

4:56 And he commanded to give to all that kept the city pensions and wages

 

 

 

 

The building of the Temple

 

6:1 Now in the second year of the reign of Darius, Aggeus (Haggai) and Zacharias the son of Addo, the prophets, prophesied unto the Jews in Jewry and Jerusalem in the name of the Lord God of Israel, which was upon them.

 

6:2 Then stood up Zorobabel the son of Salatiel, and Jesus the son of Josedec, and began to build the house of the Lord at Jerusalem, the prophets of the Lord being with them, and helping them.

 

6:27 And also king Darius commanded that Sisinnes the governor of Syria and Phenice, and Sathrabuzanes, and their companions, and those which were appointed rulers in Syria and Phenice, should be careful not to meddle with the place, but suffer Zorobabel, the servant of the Lord, and governor of Judea, and the elders of the Jews, to build the house of the Lord in that place.

 

6:28 I have commanded also to have it built up whole again; and that they look diligently to help those that be of the captivity of the Jews, till the house of the Lord be finished:

 

6:29 And out of the tribute of Celosyria and Phenice a portion carefully to be given these men for the sacrifices of the Lord, that is, to Zorobabel the governor, for bullocks, and rams, and lambs;

 

6:30 And also corn, salt, wine, and oil, and that continually every year without further question, according as the priests that be in Jerusalem shall signify to be daily spent:

 

6:31 That offerings may be made to the most high God for the king and for his children, and that they may pray for their lives.

 

6:32 And he commanded that whosoever should transgress, yea, or make light of any thing afore spoken or written, out of his own house should a tree be taken, and he thereon be hanged, and all his goods seized for the king.

 

6:33 The Lord therefore, whose name is there called upon, utterly destroy every king and nation, that stretcheth out his hand to hinder or endamage that house of the Lord in Jerusalem.

 

6:34 I Darius the king have ordained that according unto these things it be done with diligence

 

7:3 And so the holy works prospered, when Aggeus (Haggai) and Zacharias the prophets prophesied

[anakainosis 0]

Thank you fourvetta,

 

Your commentary concerning the seventy weeks was very interesting and I will have to re-read the references and see if I can come to a conclusion.

 

The water baptizing types here tend too read too many commentaries, such as Steadfasts recommendations to read of 5 or 6.  This is the reason we get many interpretations and ultimately, confusion.

 

Your meek and gentle responses show who you really follow.  An example for all to follow.

 

I sense bitter sarcasm in your response, prophet. Is that the way of the spirit you claim to follow?

 

And I disagree with your commentary remark. The problem isn`t reading too many commentaries, it is not enough commentaries read and biblically sound ones at best. Molokans that give out their personal commentary to teach other Molokans their beliefs are just assumed truths. Most are not even biblically accurate making these assumed truths just wives tales and fables.

 

The real reason why there are many interpretations and confusion is the fact that most people, especially Molokans read their belief (assumed truth) into the biblical text itself. For example, jumping, nowhere in scripture does it say jumping is specifically a manifestation of the Spirit. This is where confusion starts, when someone assumes jumping is a manifestation of the Spirit and then gives his approving comments (or commentary) to someone else who is biblically literate, who knows that none of the Apostles or prophets and even Christ himself never claimed such an idea. That is when there is confusion. A contradictory statement of faith when one is based off of unfounded information creates conflict, when it is not built off a sound biblical foundation.

 

Also fourvetta, who is meek and gentle, is also confused, and yes, we know who he follows. King of spirits, maxim, super hero of the jumpers, who worship in spirit and in his (Maxim`s) truth.

 

Not much of an example to follow.

[Guest fourvetta]

The Christian world view is that the Temple will be built again in Jerusalem. The problem is that the Abomination of Desolation comes after the temple is built.

 

It was. About 2500 years ago, during the reign of the persians.

 

9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

 

9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

 

9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate

[Guest fourvetta]

9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

 

9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate

 

 

The Prince that was to come, who caused the abomination of desolation are fulfilled in the following chapters 1 & 2 of 1 Maccabees.

 

http://ebible.org/bible/kjv/1Mac.htm

[Guest fourvetta]

Quote anonymous

 

In all honesty and no offense intended, it is difficult to carry on a serious, interactive discussion with you because of your dishonesty, flightiness, immaturity, irresponsibility, superficiality, and unaccountability with respect to GOD'S WORD, THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, and your NON-sense apart from quoting THEM, and at that, your managing to MISappropriate THEM when presented.

 

And I disagree with your commentary remark. The problem isn`t reading too many commentaries, it is not enough commentaries read and biblically sound ones at best. Molokans that give out their personal commentary to teach other Molokans their beliefs are just assumed truths. Most are not even biblically accurate making these assumed truths just wives tales and fables.

 

 

Seekings quote

 

Once this occurs the prophetic click begins to tick again for the

last 7 years of world history. Having first the 69 weeks, a pause

during the Church Age (the time since Christ until the rapture -

where we are right now) and then the 70th week

Wives tales and fables?

 

Isaiah prophesied of Cyrus the Persian 150 years before his birth.

 

Isaiah 44: 24- 28

Isaiah 45: 1-14

Isaiah 46: 10- 11

 

Cyrus is called the Anointed of the Lord, who will perform his desires, the bird of prey from the east. Who will also command to build the Temple in Jerusalem.

 

After the Seventy years were complete. ***** 9: 1 & 2

 

Making a bunch of noise, but when it's all over, that's all it was... noise

[Guest fourvetta]

Wives tales and fables?

 

Isaiah prophesied of Cyrus the Persian 150 years before his birth.

 

Isaiah 44: 24- 28

Isaiah 45: 1-14

Isaiah 46: 10- 11

 

Cyrus is called the Anointed of the Lord, who will perform his desires, the bird of prey from the east. Who will also command to build the Temple in Jerusalem.

 

After the Seventy years were complete. ***** 9: 1 & 2

[fourvetta 0]

The Christian world view is that the Temple will be built again in Jerusalem. The problem is that the Abomination of Desolation comes after the temple is built.

 

It was. About 2500 years ago, during the reign of the persians.

 

 

Christ is specific that true worship is not found in Jerusalem, nor will the worshipers have to go there to offer sacrifices.

 

21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father.

22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.

24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

 

 

Apostle Paul said, "The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands."

 

Stephen said before being martyred;

 

47But it was Solomon who built the house for him.

48"However, the Most High does not live in houses made by men. As the prophet says:

49" 'Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. What kind of house will you build for me? says the Lord. Or where will my resting place be?

50 Has not my hand made all these things?

 

 

 

Christiandom is waiting for a Temple that will never be rebuilt in Jerusalem. Nor will the Lord ever dwell there.

 

[fourvetta 0]

 

Christiandom waits for something that will never happen. And the Prophesies of Daneil are already complete.

 

 

19 The woman said to Him, “Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet.

20 Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where one ought to worship.”

21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father.

22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews.

23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.

24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

 

As` Apostle Paul said, "The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands."

 

Isaiah also;

 

1 Thus says the LORD:“ Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool. Where is the house that you will build Me? And where is the place of My rest?

2 For all those things My hand has made, And all those things exist,” Says the LORD.

 

 

 

 

[seeking_truth_1 0]

You never answered here either Fourvetta Fails To Answer Yet Again

 

If that's the case

 

Please answer the following regarding the Millennial Kingdom and it being here RIGHT NOW

 

Nothing ever changes with you does it?

 

You say Christendom is waiting for a "fairy tail" so please explain where are all these things Scripture speaks about?

 

If we've passed through the 70th week of ***** and we're in the Millennial Kingdom, where is the evidence of it?

 

We're still waiting for an explanation for ALL of this not just bits twisted to avoid answering

 

Very good...FV

 

It came down OUT OF HEAVEN

 

If you say the Millennial Kingdom was before the end of the 19th century and the New Jerusalem CAME DOWN OUT OF HEAVEN

 

Where is it?

 

Where is it now?

 

Where is Jesus now?

 

It CANNOT be both ways

 

What about the rest of these you continue to avoid>?

 

Again STAY FOCUSED so you can explain them

 

So who is the Anti-Christ?

 

When did he demand all to worship him (just like mgr)?

 

When did the anti-Christ make desolate the temple?

 

When did the anti-Christ sign a peace deal with the Jews?

 

Where is the promised peace?

 

When was the last time you saw a lion eating straw? (Isaiah 65:25)

 

When did infant mortality stop? (Isaiah 65:20)

 

When did the battle of Armageddon happen?

 

Where is the 180 miles long river of blood as high as a horse's bridle (Revelation 14:20)

 

I did a little digging and cyphering and found that to have a stream of blood of this size will take the death of over 118 Million people or possibly much higher depending upon the width of the river

 

When did this occur in a single battle?

 

Where is the new temple and when the temple sacrificial system begin?

 

Where are the two witnesses? Where are they and when were they killed?

 

When was the party "rejoicing" over their death?

 

 

 

 

Christiandom waits for something that will never happen. And the Prophesies of Daneil are already complete.

 

 

19 The woman said to Him, "Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet.

20 Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where one ought to worship."

21 Jesus said to her, "Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father.

22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews.

23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.

24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

 

As` Apostle Paul said, "The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands."

 

Isaiah also;

 

1 Thus says the LORD:" Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool. Where is the house that you will build Me? And where is the place of My rest?

2 For all those things My hand has made, And all those things exist," Says the LORD.

[fourvetta 0]

When did the battle of Armageddon happen?

 

Where is the 180 miles long river of blood as high as a horse's bridle (Revelation 14:20)

 

I did a little digging and cyphering and found that to have a stream of blood of this size will take the death of over 118 Million people or possibly much higher depending upon the width of the river

 

When did this occur in a single battle?

 

 

You do not promote the Gospel of peace.

 

Apostle Paul wrote in Ephesians 6;

 

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.

11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

 

Our battle is not literal, but spiritual.

 

Cloth yourselves with the spirit of His zeal, tearing apart all their various teachings. All of which bypass the Holy Bible and the Heavenly Apocalypse.

 

So that the wrath of God not be upon you for the teachings of the beast.

 

Be like fearless heroes. Gird yourself with the truth, array yourselves in righteousness, boot yourselves in the Gospel of peace. Cover yourselves with the shield of faith. Don the helmet of salvation.

 

Let each tie upon his thigh the sword of the spirit, the spoken words of God.. Hew down the haters of the soul of David. Banish them beyond the Gates of the New Jerusalem.

 

Praying and living in the Spirit of His truth. Only than will you be able to quench the cunning arrows which are aflame with the malice of the beasts brutality.

 

Look upon me as your commissioner of Mount Zion. In the spirit, a knight of the cross, imprisoned. Proceeding fearlessly with a drawn sword against the enemy on the battlefield.

 

For the Name of the King of King and Lord of Lords.

 

That is to say, for the Holy Spirit and brotherly love in a single union towards the community of peace of the graceful millennial kingdom of Christ upon the earth and for those of you faithful to Him with Him.

 

 

The city of New Jerusalem upon Mount Zion is called the city of peace.

 

 

 

 

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When did Israel rebuild the Temple and begin blood sacrifices?

 

Who is the anti-Christ?

When was he revealed?

When was he killed/wounded? (Revelation 13)?

 

Wisdom is needed here. Let the one with understanding solve the meaning of the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is 666. (Revelation 13:18 NLT)

 

Number of a MAN and not of a "spiritualization" of literal events

 

When did he broker a 7 year "peace treaty"? (***** 9:27)

 

When were the two witnesses killed and people had a "party" to celebrate?

When was this seen INTERNATIONALLY? (Revelation 11)

 

c 'mon NAD you don't know your Bible very well

 

It cannot all be attributed to being "spiritual"

 

Crack open a Bible and ask the Lord to show you the Truth even if that requires you to admit you've been sold a lie your entire life in the form of molokanism

 

When did the battle of Armageddon happen?

 

Where is the 180 miles long river of blood as high as a horse's bridle (Revelation 14:20)

 

I did a little digging and cyphering and found that to have a stream of blood of this size will take the death of over 118 Million people or possibly much higher depending upon the width of the river

 

When did this occur in a single battle?

 

 

You do not promote the Gospel of peace.

 

Apostle Paul wrote in Ephesians 6;

 

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.

11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

 

Our battle is not literal, but spiritual.

 

Cloth yourselves with the spirit of His zeal, tearing apart all their various teachings. All of which bypass the Holy Bible and the Heavenly Apocalypse.

 

So that the wrath of God not be upon you for the teachings of the beast.

 

Be like fearless heroes. Gird yourself with the truth, array yourselves in righteousness, boot yourselves in the Gospel of peace. Cover yourselves with the shield of faith. Don the helmet of salvation.

 

Let each tie upon his thigh the sword of the spirit, the spoken words of God.. Hew down the haters of the soul of David. Banish them beyond the Gates of the New Jerusalem.

 

Praying and living in the Spirit of His truth. Only than will you be able to quench the cunning arrows which are aflame with the malice of the beasts brutality.

 

Look upon me as your commissioner of Mount Zion. In the spirit, a knight of the cross, imprisoned. Proceeding fearlessly with a drawn sword against the enemy on the battlefield.

 

For the Name of the King of King and Lord of Lords.

 

That is to say, for the Holy Spirit and brotherly love in a single union towards the community of peace of the graceful millennial kingdom of Christ upon the earth and for those of you faithful to Him with Him.

 

 

The city of New Jerusalem upon Mount Zion is called the city of peace.